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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunVic View Post
    So he is not ONE of the most qualified and decorated volunteer assistants? Wow, just wow.

    And for those worried about his coaching experience, remember that this guy has been touched, coached and has spent an innumerable amount of time with the best of coaches in the business. With the success that he has had, one has to assume that to some extent he was a sponge during all of this. That quality is immeasurable and far outweighs any experience that a high school or college coach could possibly have.

    When you see high school coaches passing on volunteers that have spent years in the majors or minors all I can say is that it is sickening to think of the experience that these high school coaches are depriving their high school players of. It can be only one thing - the high school coaches know and realize that they will be EXPOSED by keeping them around. What a selfish act.
    Baseball is the unique sport where a players approach is the right approach.

    Good hitting coaches don't change players swing they might offer slight adjustments it's 90% mental

    Same with BJ he will not come in and change the way a guy throws he will be tasked with teaching a players mental approach to the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunT View Post
    He's been coached at every level, has a great deal to pass on. It's one thing to coach in HS or College, it's another to pass on years of instruction on every aspect of the subject from griping the ball, delivery, stretching and taking care of your body. He's done it all at every level. Those are experiences most HS or College coaches have never experienced unless they have played in minors and MLB. I'm not worried about the rest.
    Exactly. Guys are coaching each other in the bullpen every day. He did it successfully at the highest level for years. He has a Ph.D in coaching.

  3. #567

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajun_lannister View Post
    Baseball is the unique sport where a players approach is the right approach.

    Good hitting coaches don't change players swing they might offer slight adjustments it's 90% mental

    Same with BJ he will not come in and change the way a guy throws he will be tasked with teaching a players mental approach to the game.
    I disagree that coaches don't change deliveries of players. It happens every day in minor league baseball concerning top prospects having to learn how to repeat their delivery, not tipping pitches and becoming more consistent in the strike zone. It's part of development. The mental approach is part of that as well.

    Your pitching system may not change, but every pitcher has a different level of development and polish. A pitching coaches job, whether professional or amateur is to help develop and define their role on the team base upon their abilities.

    There are some great books on pitching, Tom House is a name in MLB that get's thrown around quit a bit. "The Pitching Edge" and "Nolan Ryan's Pitcher's Bible" are two books that he was involved in writing.

    There may be a question on whether BJ Ryan can manage different personalities, but that will start with Coach Deggs setting the tone in the program. BJ Ryan brings a tremendous amount of knowledge and respect to the position and I've already seen the excitement on the social media from some of the young men he will coach. I just don't see his lack of a coaching resume as a big problem as others.

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    Second guessing Deggs at this point is not wise, imo.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dad04 View Post
    Second guessing Deggs at this point is not wise, imo.
    The main worry for me is having a pitching coach who can’t recruit off campus. I’m sure they’ll fix that for 2021 and move him to a regular asst coach spot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Professor View Post
    The main worry for me is having a pitching coach who can't recruit off campus. I'm sure they'll fix that for 2021 and move him to a regular asst coach spot
    Does anyone really think Deggs hasn't thought this thing through and doesn't know how to do this? We've worked around that before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dad04 View Post
    Does anyone really think Deggs hasn't thought this thing through and doesn't know how to do this? We've worked around that before.
    I do trust Deggs and that’s why I think eventually the only pitching coach on staff will be moved up. Didn’t know we worked around it before but that makes me feel better. When was that and how?

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    Robe had an exemption for Freeman to recruit off campus. They will figure it out. We have had volunteer pitching coaches for years before Freeman got here and done fine. Bab and Szefc recruited tons of great pitchers.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman66 View Post
    I sooooooooo want this to work. The cULture will be strong in this duo. I find myself pumping breaks on BJ, simply because he hasn't coached before. My heart says 'screw you', but my head says 'wait and see'
    A little trivia question for everyone. Who was the New York Yankees pitching coach for 2006 and 2007 seasons? ….and yes, the answer is Ron Guidry! Mr. Guidry had never coached before this. Mr. Guidry was also the Yankees Spring Training Instructor for the 2008 season.

    My point being, you don't have to have coaching experience to be a qualified pitching coach. Coach Deggs is the "Coach". Mr. Ryan just needs to know the arm and leg mechanics, motion, pitching technique etc. to teach pitching. Coach Deggs will do the rest.

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    We never had a volunteer pitching coach before Freeman.


  11. #575

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    Quote Originally Posted by talktomewillis View Post
    We never had a volunteer pitching coach before Freeman.
    Perhaps not officially.

  12. #576

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dad04 View Post
    Perhaps not officially.
    Now what would you know about that. LOL!

    Reminds me of Augie at Texas and his "volunteer" coaches. One was supposed to work for a car dealership however no one there had ever seen him. Now I'm not saying that is what happened but there are numerous ways to get it done.

    With that said B.J. made 40 mil in the majors. Don't think he is too worried about getting a pay check.

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