Baseball Coaching Search 2019

[CrazyCajun]

I don't know and you don't know. I know what history has shown.

History also shows that Deggs brought Harvell here in 2013 and not JT. Again, he had a chance to get the band back together...and didn't.

It is a fact, do you know the difference in pay of Harvel at that time compared to the pay talbot took to replace deggs? Talbot came here in 2015 for a higher paying position than what he would have had in 2013. None of us know the details but just because JT didn’t come here in 2013 or shsu in 2015 doesn’t mean deggs doesn’t think highly of talbot, it could have just been circumstance and most of all, money.

[cajunhawk]

Nows not the time for a dramatic change in tradition in baseball. Deggs knows the tradition that we have here of not only creating winners on the field, but in life. If we had let robe go after the season, just normally without the passing, I'd say go national do what it takes and win. With the circumstance around his passing, tradition and stability is more important than changing culture and winning.

I think that sentiment is dangerous, and it's why softball's paradigm shift away from Lotief was so successful. There is ALWAYS more than one way to skin a cat. Tradition is important, but it should never stand in the way of change that is much needed. Being stuck in tradition was one of the reasons the baseball program was languishing.

Robe passing tragically or not, the program needs to progress. If Deggs is the right guy to bring the program back to where it needs to be and beyond, so be it. If we get stuck in the same situation we have been in because we didn't want to hurt anyone's feelings concerning who to succeed Robe, we have done a much bigger disservice to Robe's memory.

[Dad04]

I think that sentiment is dangerous, and it's why softball's paradigm shift away from Lotief was so successful. There is ALWAYS more than one way to skin a cat. Tradition is important, but it should never stand in the way of change that is much needed. Being stuck in tradition was one of the reasons the baseball program was languishing.

Robe passing tragically or not, the program needs to progress. If Deggs is the right guy to bring the program back to where it needs to be and beyond, so be it. If we get stuck in the same situation we have been in because we didn't want to hurt anyone's feelings concerning who to succeed Robe, we have done a much bigger disservice to Robe's memory.

You lost me comparing Robe to ML.

[cajunhawk]

You lost me comparing Robe to ML.

Then you missed the forest for the trees.

[Cajun90]

I think that sentiment is dangerous, and it's why softball's paradigm shift away from Lotief was so successful. There is ALWAYS more than one way to skin a cat. Tradition is important, but it should never stand in the way of change that is much needed. Being stuck in tradition was one of the reasons the baseball program was languishing.

Robe passing tragically or not, the program needs to progress. If Deggs is the right guy to bring the program back to where it needs to be and beyond, so be it. If we get stuck in the same situation we have been in because we didn't want to hurt anyone's feelings concerning who to succeed Robe, we have done a much bigger disservice to Robe's memory.

If Deggs had never set foot on campus here and still had the same story line I have no doubt he would still be one of the top candidates for the position. Before his fall from grace at A&M his resume was already very impressive.

Having a history here only makes it better. The transition becomes so much easier on multiple levels.

I honestly can't think of any other coach that we could potentially attract/offer that would just be way beyond the resume that Deggs brings to the table.

[Dad04]

Then you missed the forest for the trees.

I doubt it.

[GeauxLouisiana]

It is a fact, do you know the difference in pay of Harvel at that time compared to the pay talbot took to replace deggs? Talbot came here in 2015 for a higher paying position than what he would have had in 2013. None of us know the details but just because JT didn’t come here in 2013 or shsu in 2015 doesn’t mean deggs doesn’t think highly of talbot, it could have just been circumstance and most of all, money.

Harvell was a volunteer assistant, so you and I don't know his pay. JT was brought in in 2015 as a paid assistant, but I've never been able to obtain a copy of his contract, so I don't know his pay and you don't know his pay either. I don't think JT came here for the money either. It's not like assistant baseball coaches are UL make 6 figures. Harvell was making $75,000/year at SHSU, so you can use that as a high point for an assistant salary for our program. It's a good possibility that JT was making more outside of coaching baseball before 2015.

[cajunhawk]

I doubt it.

Whatever you say.

[cajunhawk]

If Deggs had never set foot on campus here and still had the same story line I have no doubt he would still be one of the top candidates for the position. Before his fall from grace at A&M his resume was already very impressive.

Having a history here only makes it better. The transition becomes so much easier on multiple levels.

I honestly can't think of any other coach that we could potentially attract/offer that would just be way beyond the resume that Deggs brings to the table.

He's a great candidate, I never said he wasn't. My issue is with zeroing in on him and no one else. The time period of the search seems to suggest as much.

[CajunAlum10]

I think that sentiment is dangerous, and it's why softball's paradigm shift away from Lotief was so successful. There is ALWAYS more than one way to skin a cat. Tradition is important, but it should never stand in the way of change that is much needed. Being stuck in tradition was one of the reasons the baseball program was languishing.

Robe passing tragically or not, the program needs to progress. If Deggs is the right guy to bring the program back to where it needs to be and beyond, so be it. If we get stuck in the same situation we have been in because we didn't want to hurt anyone's feelings concerning who to succeed Robe, we have done a much bigger disservice to Robe's memory.

I think your points are valid. But, not entirely encompassing of the whole resume at hand. Forget the fact of continuing on our tradition. While that is probably a major focus, the real caveat here is the FACT that the 2 and a half years Deggs was here, the tradition remained, but the intensity and focus of our team escalated greatly. Deggs was extremely instrumental in turning our program back into what we knew it could be. He helped us to become the #1 Team in the nation, something we obviously had never done. While Robe was the HC, don't discredit the fact that Deggs was a major part of that. So he moved on and took a HC job and had immediate success yet again.

So again I say, forget the whole argument of "continuing tradition and not necessarily doing a heavier national search." The fact remains, Deggs would be a huge hire regardless. And he's likely the top target for a bunch of reasons.