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    found this.......pay attn to “corporate sponsorship” and i was surprised to see the volunteer may recruit more than we realized.....

    “The "third assistant" or "volunteer assistant" as it's often called, is paid from other sources available to the program. Typical sources include camp revenues, corporate sponsorship (i.e. equipment contracts), and radio/TV shows. It's also not unusual for third assistants to serve as paid clinic/camp instructors and/or summer team coaches when their college duties don't conflict.

    As you might imagine, the compensation associated with these third assistantships can vary quite a bit from program to program; depending upon the size and number of non-university revenue sources associated with each program. However, they are invariably full-time, paid assistantships; causing the term "volunteer assistant" to be a misnomer. Because of this, more and more programs are dropping the "volunteer" part and referring to this person simply as an "assistant coach."

    As full-time assistants, they are usually asked to be involved in a wide range of coaching responsibilities; although, their background will tend to cause them to spend more time on either the hitting or pitching side of the coaching to be done.

    More often than not, they are given a full seat at the coaching table. However, there is one enforced distinction from the NCAA: They usually cannot travel expressly for recruiting purposes. I say "usually" because the actual regulation stipulates that no more than 3 coaches may be designated as traveling recruiters. However, they can be actively engaged in correspondence with recruits (subject to other general restrictions, of course), and they can recruit when on their own campus. “


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    Quote Originally Posted by raginsaints View Post
    The Sun Belt voted yes
    thread after thread about the sun belt’s poor decisions and how we need to leave......but now you think they voted correctly on an sec proposed bill?

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    ....turns out the “grad assistant” doesnt have to be a graduate school student after all.... hmmm more wool pulled over our eyes all this time, but that certainly clears up a lot of questions.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lifetimecajun View Post
    Gonna make some pretty big names in college baseball available soon
    How will this make coaches leave? Thats an interesting point! Thanks in advance!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragin4U View Post
    Now I understand and totally agree! Why NOT Give the Individual programs/Universities/Conferences the OPTION? Wow, Big12 and Big10, wow!

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    Well clearly I’m disappointed, but that didn’t fail exclusively by two conferences. There’s 3 P5 in addition, and all the G5 and FCS also in Div I baseball.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunEXPRESS View Post
    Well clearly I’m disappointed, but that didn’t fail exclusively by two conferences. There’s 3 P5 in addition, and all the G5 and FCS also in Div I baseball.
    It did not fail exclusively by 2, BUT:

    P5 leagues got 4 votes each, G5 2 each, and everyone else 1.

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    We paying one we don’t want, why do we need to pay another.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunVic View Post
    We paying one we don’t want, why do we need to pay another.
    No freaking doubt. The rule is irrelevant to us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dad04 View Post
    No freaking doubt. The rule is irrelevant to us.
    Maybe it will force the hand. IMO, if you are on staff and cannot contribute in multiple facets of the game, you need to be seriously evaluated. I also do not think Bab is immune to this. I guarantee you that several programs have coaches that just aren't in uniform in that position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dad04 View Post
    No freaking doubt. The rule is irrelevant to us.
    Well, if you replace the one you don't want how in the heck do you pay someone decent? The problem is, outside of football baseball has the second largest roster in college athletics. But, you can only have 3 paid assistants for your student athletes. Makes very little sense period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 31Ragin97 View Post
    found this.......pay attn to "corporate sponsorship" and i was surprised to see the volunteer may recruit more than we realized.....

    "The "third assistant" or "volunteer assistant" as it's often called, is paid from other sources available to the program. Typical sources include camp revenues, corporate sponsorship (i.e. equipment contracts), and radio/TV shows. It's also not unusual for third assistants to serve as paid clinic/camp instructors and/or summer team coaches when their college duties don't conflict.

    As you might imagine, the compensation associated with these third assistantships can vary quite a bit from program to program; depending upon the size and number of non-university revenue sources associated with each program. However, they are invariably full-time, paid assistantships; causing the term "volunteer assistant" to be a misnomer. Because of this, more and more programs are dropping the "volunteer" part and referring to this person simply as an "assistant coach."

    As full-time assistants, they are usually asked to be involved in a wide range of coaching responsibilities; although, their background will tend to cause them to spend more time on either the hitting or pitching side of the coaching to be done.

    More often than not, they are given a full seat at the coaching table. However, there is one enforced distinction from the NCAA: They usually cannot travel expressly for recruiting purposes. I say "usually" because the actual regulation stipulates that no more than 3 coaches may be designated as traveling recruiters. However, they can be actively engaged in correspondence with recruits (subject to other general restrictions, of course), and they can recruit when on their own campus. "
    A quick internet search came up with this Volunteer Coach rules sheet from Xavier University.

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