Jordan Brown

[CajunRage]

Who/what does that mean? Clarification please 🧐

If you have to ask, you’re not paying attention.

[Turbine]

I know of one in a Cajuns uniform that doesn't...... couldn't help myself....

Zing

[CajunEXPRESS]

Compare the players that have transferred out over the last 9 years with the ones who have stayed and played.

The ones who have remained under Marlin's tutelage have improved, the ones who left have not. ... For the most part.

Well Plaisance improves at UNeaux. I’m gonna say most who left were not progressing under Marlin or he’d fought harder to keep them.

Just saying again that the purpose of coaching is to improve your game, not your character. Can’t recall Bob taking a dud and making him a solid starter, but I’m sure it must have happened.

[zephyr]

Look J-Brown, had quite a dissappointing rookie season at Nevada. He only averaged 10 minutes a game in 33 games. He show 50.6% in those games and only 62.1% from the FT line. He averaged 3 points and 2.1 boards a game. I realize that Nevada is very good and very deep, but I think they were expecting a little more from him than he gave them.

In his last 7 games he played a total of 34 minutes (under 5 minutes per game) and scored 6 total points (under 1 point per game) on 2 of 4 shooting. He had 2 double digit games all year, vs Cal Baptist and Little Rock.

I am not sure what type of player he is, but his numbers were very underwelming this year.

Dave, Jordan played on a upperclassman team this year for a program that was in the top 10 much of the season. 12 of their 15 players were either junior or seniors. Their best players were front court guys and the Martin twins were swingmen. Just because he didn't play much this year doesn't mean he doesn't have a mountain of potential. His situation this year just lent him to playing behind a lot of good players who had a ton of experience.

[CajunEXPRESS]

Dave, Jordan played on a upperclassman team this year for a program that was in the top 10 much of the season. 12 of their 15 players were either junior or seniors. Their best players were front court guys and the Martin twins were swingmen. Just because he didn't play much this year doesn't mean he doesn't have a mountain of potential. His situation this year just lent him to playing behind a lot of good players who had a ton of experience.

Great evaluation.

[Million$Mullet]

Dave, Jordan played on a upperclassman team this year for a program that was in the top 10 much of the season. 12 of their 15 players were either junior or seniors. Their best players were front court guys and the Martin twins were swingmen. Just because he didn't play much this year doesn't mean he doesn't have a mountain of potential. His situation this year just lent him to playing behind a lot of good players who had a ton of experience.

Exactly. Whoever lands him will be very lucky. Wish we could have seen him play with Jakeenan

[Ragin4U]

Well Plaisance improves at UNeaux. I’m gonna say most who left were not progressing under Marlin or he’d fought harder to keep them.

Just saying again that the purpose of coaching is to improve your game, not your character. Can’t recall Bob taking a dud and making him a solid starter, but I’m sure it must have happened.

If you don't think a college coach has a responsibility to coach the game AND coach life, I understand why you hate on Marlin so much.

[31Ragin97]

what am i missing in this thread?

was this guy not improved, or did he play for a different coach?

247Sports Rating: None

CBB Career: 1,426 points, 508 rebounds, 486 assists, 197 steals (three seasons)

NBA Career: 731 points, 533 assists, 349 rebounds, 142 steals

Just like Nate Wolters, there's no evidence that Elfrid Payton was ever evaluated by a 247Sports scout. ESPN at least listed him as one of Louisiana-Lafayette's signings in 2011 but gave him a grade of NR—presumably "Not Rated."

In other words, his ascension to the No. 10 pick of the 2014 NBA draft might have been the most unforeseeable thing to occur in the past decade.

It wasn't even remotely predictable after his freshman year, either. Payton averaged 7.2 points per game, recording 97 assists against 96 turnovers as the Ragin' Cajuns' primary point guard.

His sophomore year, though, they added Shawn Long to the mix, and suddenly Payton had the perfect sidekick. The double-double machine afforded Payton the opportunity to do his thing, driving and dishing like a madman while racking up better than two steals per game on defense, too. He still committed a ton of turnovers, but these things happen when one plays 36 minutes per night and is the only player on his Sun Belt Conference team capable of running an offense.

Unlike Wolters, Nick Fazekas or Jimmer Fredette, Payton has proven himself capable of doing some serious damage at the next level. He played 30.4 minutes per game as a rookie with the Magic, recording 6.5 assists per game and a 2.63 assist-to-turnover ratio.

And unlike most rookies, he didn't tire one bit down the stretch. Over the course of games 62 through 82, Payton averaged 12.4 points, 8.7 assists, 5.6 rebounds and 2.4 steals per game with an assist-to-turnover ratio of 3.1. The Magic lost the majority of those games, but they clearly have something special to build upon for years to come.

ranked 12 th overlooked player.... https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...decade#slide10

[31Ragin97]

are players allowed to sign up for the portal and then still remain at old school, i.e. withdraw from portal?

[CajunEXPRESS]

If you don't think a college coach has a responsibility to coach the game AND coach life, I understand why you hate on Marlin so much.

As I’ve repeatedly said I’ve no animosity towards Marlin the man, or coach. I’d like him to be a much better coach. Unfortunately he’s overpaid and he underperforms almost every year.

A recent stat on this site said it all, 8 wins in 9 SBC tournaments.

[CajunEXPRESS]

what am i missing in this thread?

was this guy not improved, or did he play for a different coach?

247Sports Rating: None

CBB Career: 1,426 points, 508 rebounds, 486 assists, 197 steals (three seasons)

NBA Career: 731 points, 533 assists, 349 rebounds, 142 steals

Just like Nate Wolters, there's no evidence that Elfrid Payton was ever evaluated by a 247Sports scout. ESPN at least listed him as one of Louisiana-Lafayette's signings in 2011 but gave him a grade of NR—presumably "Not Rated."

In other words, his ascension to the No. 10 pick of the 2014 NBA draft might have been the most unforeseeable thing to occur in the past decade.

It wasn't even remotely predictable after his freshman year, either. Payton averaged 7.2 points per game, recording 97 assists against 96 turnovers as the Ragin' Cajuns' primary point guard.

His sophomore year, though, they added Shawn Long to the mix, and suddenly Payton had the perfect sidekick. The double-double machine afforded Payton the opportunity to do his thing, driving and dishing like a madman while racking up better than two steals per game on defense, too. He still committed a ton of turnovers, but these things happen when one plays 36 minutes per night and is the only player on his Sun Belt Conference team capable of running an offense.

Unlike Wolters, Nick Fazekas or Jimmer Fredette, Payton has proven himself capable of doing some serious damage at the next level. He played 30.4 minutes per game as a rookie with the Magic, recording 6.5 assists per game and a 2.63 assist-to-turnover ratio.

And unlike most rookies, he didn't tire one bit down the stretch. Over the course of games 62 through 82, Payton averaged 12.4 points, 8.7 assists, 5.6 rebounds and 2.4 steals per game with an assist-to-turnover ratio of 3.1. The Magic lost the majority of those games, but they clearly have something special to build upon for years to come.

ranked 12 th overlooked player.... https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...decade#slide10

We know, he's a coach. That's what almost all coaches do, improve their players.

If Marlin was a improvement guru he'd get a lot better group of players. That is unless nobody can see his talent except Turbine and UL administrators.

[zephyr]

If you don't think a college coach has a responsibility to coach the game AND coach life, I understand why you hate on Marlin so much.

Coaching life and basketball go hand in hand for most coaches. Of course when you have as close of a relationship to these kids as coaches do, you want them to succeed in any facet of life but coaches aren't judged and evaluated on what kind of citizens their players become. Coaches have a little skin in the game as well when it comes to behavior of their players as they are ultimately responsible for their players' actions. Fair or not fair, that is what it is. Ask Hud.