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    Quote Originally Posted by talktomewillis View Post
    The changes have been made. But you aren't going to see the results of the change eight months after the change.

    You're starting to see what Wells means to the program. The rest of the changes will be manifested in recruiting.

    I realize we want it and we want it now. It's what we are as a society. And, I realize no one wants to hear that a little more patience is required.

    But, as I said, the changes have been made.
    Wow, so you don't realize that this is about putting _____E$ in the seats. You don't realize that this is about WINNING. About taking the next step. It seems to be a lot easier just to say that this will take time or give it time. Go try and tell that to the folks in Baton Rouge or Tuscaloosa, Austin, or any other big time athletic program in the country. So while we're "giving it time", we'll continue to be average at best right [and I'm not talking just baseball here] ? Just say it. We're cool with being average. And when the fans finally have had enough, then what ? It's reality and it's near.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZoomZoom View Post
    So he’s saying it just comes down to three, maybe four games in May...maybe?

    Sounds familiar, can’t recall who got shredded over that remark.
    I’m pretty sure everyone understands that basketball schedule is about March not an at large option. That’s not the case in baseball where our actual play determines if we might be a at large program.

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    Quote Originally Posted by talktomewillis View Post
    No change is being considered.

    Next.
    Well my question, if you read it, is “at what point...”. In fact, that’s the title of the thread.

    So, how many missed Regionals would trigger such consideration? Or does it not matter as long as we’re still Top 20 in attendance? Or does it not matter ever?

    You seem to have the proper insider knowledge everyone craves, so what are your thoughts?

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    It is simple. You make a change once you are convinced the coach will not be able to reach the goals you have set for the program.

    Fans focus too much on past performance and not enough on the future. Yes, we have Robe this year, and yes this year’s team is obviously underwhelming. But the real question is does Robe have the ability to put a successful team on the field over the next 3 years? If he does, we should keep him. If he doesn’t, then it is time to give him one hell of a retirement celebration.

    I don’t know enough about baseball to know the answer to that question.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunEXPRESS View Post
    I'm pretty sure everyone understands that basketball schedule is about March not an at large option. That's not the case in baseball where our actual play determines if we might be a at large program.
    Not this season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajunrunner View Post
    Well my question, if you read it, is "at what point...". In fact, that's the title of the thread.

    So, how many missed Regionals would trigger such consideration? Or does it not matter as long as we're still Top 20 in attendance? Or does it not matter ever?

    You seem to have the proper insider knowledge everyone craves, so what are your thoughts?
    It doesn't matter what my thoughts are. As has been shown in this thread, any opinions or knowledge I have just makes me a sunshine pumper. No one is going to accept, or believe what I have to say because I'm not ripping the program like some people think I should.

    I stand by what I said about no change is coming. I do not know at what point that might change. And, what I said is not my opinion, it's the way it is.

    I've talked to those that matter. There is no change coming. Now if people want to rip my ___ for that, that's fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by talktomewillis View Post
    It doesn't matter what my thoughts are. As has been shown in this thread, any opinions or knowledge I have just makes me a sunshine pumper. No one is going to accept, or believe what I have to say because I'm not ripping the program like some people think I should.

    I stand by what I said about no change is coming. I do not know at what point that might change. And, what I said is not my opinion, it's the way it is.

    I've talked to those that matter. There is no change coming. Now if people want to rip my ___ for that, that's fine.
    Well in regards to your last statement, I’m not trying to rip your ——. I’m just asking you to clarify. You replied that there is no change being considered at this time, so end of discussion.

    But my post was asking everyone’s opinion of at what point should one be considered, and for what it’s worth, I consider your opinion the same as other faceless posters in this thread. Everyone has a different standard and threshold as a fan. You knowing the landscape of our athletic department and college baseball in general, what is yours?

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    And look, I’ll do you one more and admit that I was one who, after 2012 where we missed a Regional for the 2nd straight season and got swept by ULM and missed the SBC tournament, asked at that time if it was time to consider a change from Robe.

    Boy did I look like a fool the next 4 seasons.

    But here we are again. The discussion is worth having amongst fans, and in my opinion, Maggard has to have in his head what situation would trigger such within his walls as well.

    ESPECIALLY in light of the investment and pride that’s been put into this program in recent years as trying to position itself as amongst the upper tier in the country.


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    Multiple consecutive (3 or more) 25 wins or less seasons would be a basis for long term restructuring.

    I am sure the coaches and athletic dept get this, but what is troubling to fans is the glimpse of the mountain top in 2013-2016, quickly followed by the long slide down the side of the mountain lasting 3 seasons or more.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dad04 View Post
    Multiple consecutive (3 or more) 25 wins or less seasons would be a basis for long term restructuring.
    That’s not going to happen.

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