At What Point...

[Dad04]

Tech is one of the better teams we have played, we have been skull drug by much worse this year

Appalachian State comes to mind.

[ULvictory]

No one is saying don’t hold them accountable. The fans are deserving of a product that they are accustomed to. Just never forget, the ones doing it on the field want it more than you, believe that.

I think it’s safe to say that pretty much most of the 300+ D1 schools want the same type of success. It doesn’t mean that all of them will achieve just that. And when they don’t, people aren’t going to pay for the shortcomings after awhile. It’s just a harsh fact.

[Dad04]

No one is saying don’t hold them accountable. The fans are deserving of a product that they are accustomed to. Just never forget, the ones doing it on the field want it more than you, believe that.

Nobody doubts the team's commitment. Robe will fix it and no message board is getting him fired. I will let you know when to panic.

[Turbine]

No one is saying don't hold them accountable. The fans are deserving of a product that they are accustomed to. Just never forget, the ones doing it on the field want it more than you, believe that.

Emotions after a Tech or McNeese loss are magnified for some reason.

[cajun_lannister]

Emotions after a Tech or McNeese loss are magnified for some reason.

It's like we work with some of their alumni and have to hear crap for weeks

[DuckmanUSLGrad]

No, a former player. Robe himself will tell you lack of wins is not what we expect. He would be the first to shoulder that. No one is disputing that. What we all should do if the ship is sinking as was mentioned earlier, is help bail the water- not punch more holes in it. Support them. Most of the ones running he and the team down would be the first to want to pat the coaches and players on the back when it's turned around.

So based on your post, if I say a coaching change should not be made and Tony will fix things just have total faith in him then that would help turnaround things?? Cannot wait for us to come back and beat a mighty cowboys team tonight based on what I just posted! Hell we may even make a run now to host a regional now! All rainbows and sunshine!

Life time contract for Tony.....Wow that was easy!

[cajun_lannister]

I think it’s safe to say that pretty much most of the 300+ D1 schools want the same type of success. It doesn’t mean that all of them will achieve just that. And when they don’t, people aren’t going to pay for the shortcomings after awhile. It’s just a harsh fact.

If you notice Maggard never refers to us as donors but investors and fans should treat it as an investment

[Turbine]

So based on your post, if I say a coaching change should not be made and Tony will fix things just have total faith in him then that would help turnaround things?? Cannot wait for us to come back and beat a mighty cowboys team tonight based on what I just posted! Hell we may even make a run to host a regional now! All rainbows and sunshine!

Life time contract for Tony.....Wow that was easy!

You gotta be sincere for that to work.

[Tell The Truth]

It's like we work with some of their alumni and have to hear crap for weeks

No crap here....just the truth...you have been skull drugged in 6 of the last 8 baseball games by TECH...want to talk the last 2 football games....didn't think so....

[cajun55]

This goes back to the OP of this thread....at what point is Robe told that this is enough? He's had his chances to fix this. And yet a $17 million stadium is half full. The fans are speaking up by not attending. Soon the fans may speak up by not paying $$ for this.

At this point last year (a year in which we got off slow again), we were 18-17. What's changed? We can hit the ball, but now can't pitch. What's going to be the reason for a slow start in 2020? Because nothing I see at the games makes me think we'll be better off in 2020.

We are not a team that can handle 5-game weeks right now. Our pitching staff does not have the depth needed. Many would call me crazy but I think per the norm coach Robe has actually done a great job in getting us what is shaping up to be a decent weekend rotation of arms, which was one of the biggest question marks coming into the season. This will at least keep us competitive on the weekends for conference despite our lack of depth.

My biggest concern going forward is offense as that is where we have traditionally relied on a good hitting coach, which all signs are pointing up and positive on Wells. We know as long as Robe is around that he will get the max out of a pitching staff, so I have zero worries on that front for the future.

Sounds weird but 35 games is still a small sample size in baseball especially when you are trying to rebuild or find consistency with unproven inexperienced players. We have some very good pieces on this team, hopefully we can up our recruiting for the upcoming seasons to match our high expectations. That is the only way we can win consistently year to year. We have to bring in more recruits that have shortened learning curves.

I understand this is a different game on the collegiate level but one of last years world series participants had a worse record than us after 35 games (15-20). Yes I know we don’t have the benefit of 162 game seasons like the LA Dodgers and maybe a stupid comparison but just showing an example of the time it takes for the pieces to fall into place. Don’t forget some in this forum wanted to bench Cantrelle after 15 games, lol. We all knew coming into the season the situation with our pitching staff. I think many just want this program to be at a point where recruiting talent can overcome injuries and inexperience. That has been the biggest let down for many after tasting that number 1 ranking and getting the beautiful stadium. That is a valid expectation and one of the most disappointing results of the last few seasons, but we can’t go back can we, only forward.

As for your statement about what to look forward to, this is our FLOOR (an average inconsistent team). Our hitting is looking better and coach Robe WILL get the pitching turned around in the coming seasons like always. These are the growing pains this staff has to go through on the mound with the inexperience we have. It sucks, but it is what it is. Hopefully we can bring in more talent and a few of our young arms blossom.

To answer this threads question at what point....when the pressure that the staff is currently feeling does not result in a turn around. I’m pretty confident this coaching staff is not happy about the past 2 1/2 years results and is working hard to remedy the situation. I’d say if they don’t turn it around in the same time frame, another couple years then that would be your at what point. Just my opinion. As some have mentioned we won’t appreciate what we have until its gone, not the cool thing to say around here but we are lucky Robe has been loyal to our program and built what we have. He has raised the expectations when I’m sure he could have gone to bigger pastures. I think he deserves the fans loyalty during the .500 ball down years. Doesn’t mean we have to be happy and accept mediocrity just means we still believe in a coach that has given us a 3rd place college world series finish and a number 1 in season ranking more recently.

The lack of grit, toughness aka Throwdown does worry me. Perhaps its the lack of dirt on the field or maybe those damn baserunning mittens?????? Or simply a product of this generation of millenials???

Sorry for the essay...just don’t have time to post too much, so one big post is what you get!