Can someone splain me what happened to our once-poud baseball program?

[CajunT]

You keep focusing on one unnamed person and penning my analysis on that person and who ever said anything about anyone playing or not playing at the COD? It was you.

No one has said a thing about Lockrodge and the COD and he is only one of about twelve that have received the revolving door treatment of development by this coaching staff the past two years. One was Lott last year. That revolving door treatment has failed them miserably. Most from last year are no longer here, some good players got the door before the season even started and we are where we are today.

My point was that if more players were given the pedestal treatment that Cantrelle has received, maybe, just maybe we would have more productive players contributing on this team. I said further that it is not fair to judge the development of others in comparison to Cantrelle because virtually NONE of the others have been given even remotely like opportunities to produce.

Not ONCE have I said anything should be taken away from Cantrelle for using ALL of the opportunities that he has been given to get where he got last year and where he is now this year. In fact I admire him for working through the two slumps and performing the way he did in the second half of last year and has of late this year.

Your post suggest he was given something he hasn't earned. I told you the Patch on his shoulder suggest otherwise. As for Lockridge, you admitted being a personal friend of the family earlier in this thread, amongst other comments. I've heard many of the same things you have posted about other players, and for the record I'm not certain of what is accurate or extreme exaggerations from disgruntled player, and or parents. In any case, I look up and I see that Cantrelle is leading the team in batting average and has won more games with his bat than any other player in the lineup thus far in the season. So in spite of your suggestions that he has been given more opportunity than others to succeed, it's no surprise to me he has the best stats on the team and has been the best damn player of the team this season. I'm my book he has earned it.

Now do I think there aren't problems in the program? I'm not naive enough to believe some players haven't received better opportunities than others. It happens in most programs, if it did not Lockridge would still be at LSU. And that is my point to you, other programs do the same things including the one down the road, but some people want to kick Rob in the nuts because he has done the same thing at times. But people that support those same athletes don't ever bring up those complaints about that program.

Bottom line, we have problems in our program. There is no doubt that it falls on the man running this program and his decisions. He needs to fix it or the fans will stop supporting him. But in all the things we've seen and complained about that are concerns, Hayden Cantrelle is the least of my concern. At some point performance matters and BS walks.

[babysitter]

I never meant over the middle infielders on that team, I meant one of the players on that team including Hayden would probably had to play out of position.

I hear ya RaginDave. I read your original post again and at first it looked like you suggested Conrad or Trahan would have to play out of position as you said "one of those guys" but you meant to include Cantrelle in that mix. I understand. Although I still don't think Cantrelle sees the field that often on that 2014 team, I would agree he would have to have been an outfielder at least.

[CajunVic]

Your post suggest he was given something he hasn't earned. I told you the Patch on his shoulder suggest otherwise. As for Lockridge, you admitted being a personal friend of the family earlier in this thread, amongst other comments. I've heard many of the same things you have posted about other players, and for the record I'm not certain of what is accurate or extreme exaggerations from disgruntled player, and or parents. In any case, I look up and I see that Cantrelle is leading the team in batting average and has won more games with his bat than any other player in the lineup thus far in the season. So in spite of your suggestions that he has been given more opportunity than others to succeed, it's no surprise to me he has the best stats on the team and has been the best damn player of the team this season. I'm my book he has earned it.

Now do I think there aren't problems in the program? I'm not naive enough to believe some players haven't received better opportunities than others. It happens in most programs, if it did not Lockridge would still be at LSU. And that is my point to you, other programs do the same things including the one down the road, but some people want to kick Rob in the nuts because he has done the same thing at times. But people that support those same athletes don't ever bring up those complaints about that program.

Bottom line, we have problems in our program. There is no doubt that it falls on the man running this program and his decisions. He needs to fix it or the fans will stop supporting him. But in all the things we've seen and complained about that are concerns, Hayden Cantrelle is the least of my concern. At some point performance matters and BS walks.

For the record, I know the parents of many players on the team and if Cantrelle would have been afforded the opportunities afforded to others, he would be sporting a 180 BA, 6 errors and less than half the playing time.

[RaginDave]

I hear ya RaginDave. I read your original post again and at first it looked like you suggested Conrad or Trahan would have to play out of position as you said "one of those guys" but you meant to include Cantrelle in that mix. I understand. Although I still don't think Cantrelle sees the field that often on that 2014 team, I would agree he would have to have been an outfielder at least.

Thank you babysitter. I was just trying to make a point that I think of the players we have today the only ones that I think would have had a chance to start were

Gunner (when healthy would have been a weekend starter)
Hayden (not sure where he would have fit in, but somebody including himself would have had to play out of position)
Todd Lott (probably a platoon or part time player)

Outside of that, I see no one on this team that would have had a chance.

I am not a doom and gloomer like most on this site, I see some positives that I can be excited about for the 2nd half of the year.

Kasuls coming back and is playing well. We really need him healthy
Cantrelle is carrying the team offensively
Lott is playing well
Toro when healthy (we need him back desperately)
Breaux I like what Breaux is doing and think he is going to only get better
Spears we need to give him more playing time
Lahare will come back, and I know he is struggling, but he will hit better tahn .164


Pitching wise:

Gunner is pitching well even though he is not putting up the innings, he will help in relief and starting the rest of the season

Burk has picked it up as of late

Leaumont is pitchig well

Young has had some good outings

We need to see more out of Cox/Horton/Batty/Perrin/Armstrong/Cook, but all have had some good outings.

[CajunT]

Where may I ask did you come up with this? Whatever you are smoking, I would like some of that.

Quote CajunVic;

"Lott was not given a real chance last year. Boy I bet he wished he was on that pedestal.

The last part of your post is part of the problem as to why we are where we are.

And on the Cape, don't fool yourself, the college coaches decide who gets invited."

Whatever I'm smoking, it seems to work better than your medication.

[ConfusedFan]

You can laugh all you want, however if YOUR coach is not behind you, you not going to the COD.

Further, If YOUR coach is behind you, you get opportunity after opportunity after opportunity no matter your performance and you are in the line up day in and day out. You can laugh about that also, but it is a fact specifically proven over the past 2 years.

So how many chances should YOUR boy get? Since he's been inserted into the starting lineup, he's 0-25.

[CajunVic]

So how many chances should YOUR boy get? Since he's been inserted into the starting lineup, he's 0-25.

I don’t have a boy. Now you listening to T. Pile on, it’s ok. There are several players this year and last who have not received fair opportunities to produce. At least some of them should. Maybe we would have a team of producers rather than just one on a pedestal. It takes a team to win. Y’all have at it.

[ConfusedFan]

I don’t have a boy. Now you listening to T. Pile on, it’s ok. There are several players this year and last who have not received fair opportunities to produce. At least some of them should. Maybe we would have a team of producers rather than just one on a pedestal. It takes a team to win. Y’all have at it.

Who should receive opportunities over others? Just curious. Not trying to argue your point on THAT one. Just trying to see where you are going with this.

[CajunT]

Who should receive opportunities over others? Just curious. Not trying to argue your point on THAT one. Just trying to see where you are going with this.

If you go back and read through his post he has mentioned Lockridge, Hannie and several others. But let's be honest because he hasn't been, it all began with Lockridge and his relationship with the family. I listened at first, but than he piled on Cantrelle in the thread about the starting lineup. I'm willing to give Lockridge some more time, but I'm not listening to people ____ on the best player on the team and while others are getting it done.

[Dad04]

Glove wise Trahan is better, no doubt. Both kids played QB in HS and Cantrelle is every bit of an athlete as Trahan. I watched both in HS play and there is no question in my mind.

Why that ability and foot speed doesnt translate to range across the middle is a mystery.

[Dad04]

Since we’re having the discussion...

Imagine what Deggs would have done with Lott

🔥🔥🔥

Oh my God. I just thought about it. 3 time Sunbelt POY. Top 5 rounder.

[JMV JustMyView]

Glove wise Trahan is better, no doubt. Both kids played QB in HS and Cantrelle is every bit of an athlete as Trahan. I watched both in HS play and there is no question in my mind.

From the play that I have seen I haven't seen that yet from Cantrelle. No doubt a good athlete but he isnt on BT level.