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    Quote Originally Posted by talktomewillis View Post
    Hunter was quoted several times in the couple of weeks prior to the conference tournament and said the same thing. It was all about three days in March. Said he wasn't pushing his team too hard and basically said he didn't care if they won the regular season title.
    Being the best coach in the Sun Belt doesn't take much. Like Marlin, Hunter schedules the little sisters of the poor for non conference home games; unlike Marlin he wins the occasional road game against a decent power conference team.

    I have my doubts about how well he can do at Tulane. I don't think he can get the guys he usually gets as transfers into school there; and I am not sure he can out-coach the better coaches in the AAC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VObserver View Post
    Being the best coach in the Sun Belt doesn't take much. Like Marlin, Hunter schedules the little sisters of the poor for non conference home games; unlike Marlin he wins the occasional road game against a decent power conference team.

    I have my doubts about how well he can do at Tulane. I don't think he can get the guys he usually gets as transfers into school there; and I am not sure he can out-coach the better coaches in the AAC.
    I am in agreement. I'm going to be interested to see how he tries to build the program there. The transfer route is very difficult because of credit transferring. Hunter, regardless of what anyone thinks about him, is charismatic. He'll attract some talent there. But that league is a very tough nut to crack and he's inheriting a program that just went 0-18.

    His two best teams were built on transfers. Most of the talent he's had in the last few years has been home grown kids from Georgia. They've won in the Sun belt, but we will never confuse the recent teams with what he had when he had Harrow, Hunter, et. al.

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    Quote Originally Posted by talktomewillis View Post
    Hunter was quoted several times in the couple of weeks prior to the conference tournament and said the same thing. It was all about three days in March. Said he wasn't pushing his team too hard and basically said he didn't care if they won the regular season title.
    I’m pretty sure my statement was in support of the Big Fish philology of only playing for tournament championships. Unfortunately he rarely delivers and would jump all over any pay to play tournament. Ultimately I don’t care what Hunter does except as it might have a direct impact on Louisiana. I’m doubting the Big Fish can recruit well against Hunter. Luckily he’s looking for a lot better talent than Marlin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by talktomewillis View Post
    Hunter was quoted several times in the couple of weeks prior to the conference tournament and said the same thing. It was all about three days in March. Said he wasn't pushing his team too hard and basically said he didn't care if they won the regular season title.
    Let me ask this Willis. Do you agree with him? Do you feel that regardless of how our regular season goes and what our conference position is if we win the conference tournament we have succeeded?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zephyr View Post
    Let me ask this Willis. Do you agree with him? Do you feel that regardless of how our regular season goes and what our conference position is if we win the conference tournament we have succeeded?
    I think both are equally important. No one will ever call a season where we make it to the NCAA tournament a failure, regardless of how the team does during the regular season.

    But I also believe a better barometer of the program is the regular season. If you go out and win 27 games and win your regular season championship by four games, you've had a helluva year.

    But judging by some of the debates I've had on this board, there are several who believe losing in the league semifinals without two key figures on your team negates anything you did during a 31 game regular season.

    I'll take it a step farther. Jessie's 2004 team won the west and was the #1 seed. But there were divisions and they didn't award a regular season title. We tied for the title in 2000 with South Alabama and won the tournament.

    But Marlin's 2018 title was the first outright regular season title since we joined the Sun Belt. That's right. It had not been done in 27 seasons. It also never happened in the American South. You have to go back to Paschal's team that won the Southland the final year we were in the league to get the last outright regular season championship and that was 35 years ago.

    And most on this board ignore that fact.

    So, I guess those who think the regular season title is a better barometer of your program are in a distinct minority.

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    Quote Originally Posted by talktomewillis View Post
    I think both are equally important. No one will ever call a season where we make it to the NCAA tournament a failure, regardless of how the team does during the regular season.

    But I also believe a better barometer of the program is the regular season. If you go out and win 27 games and win your regular season championship by four games, you've had a helluva year.

    But judging by some of the debates I've had on this board, there are several who believe losing in the league semifinals without two key figures on your team negates anything you did during a 31 game regular season.

    I'll take it a step farther. Jessie's 2004 team won the west and was the #1 seed. But there were divisions and they didn't award a regular season title. We tied for the title in 2000 with South Alabama and won the tournament.

    But Marlin's 2018 title was the first outright regular season title since we joined the Sun Belt. That's right. It had not been done in 27 seasons. It also never happened in the American South. You have to go back to Paschal's team that won the Southland the final year we were in the league to get the last outright regular season championship and that was 35 years ago.

    And most on this board ignore that fact.

    So, I guess those who think the regular season title is a better barometer of your program are in a distinct minority.
    NCAA appearances make money no one cares about regular season titles. Hudspeth is a prime example nobody mentions he had only 1 shared sunbelt championship in the first 4 years the same as Bustle

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    Quote Originally Posted by talktomewillis View Post
    I think both are equally important. No one will ever call a season where we make it to the NCAA tournament a failure, regardless of how the team does during the regular season.

    But I also believe a better barometer of the program is the regular season. If you go out and win 27 games and win your regular season championship by four games, you've had a helluva year.

    But judging by some of the debates I've had on this board, there are several who believe losing in the league semifinals without two key figures on your team negates anything you did during a 31 game regular season.

    I'll take it a step farther. Jessie's 2004 team won the west and was the #1 seed. But there were divisions and they didn't award a regular season title. We tied for the title in 2000 with South Alabama and won the tournament.

    But Marlin's 2018 title was the first outright regular season title since we joined the Sun Belt. That's right. It had not been done in 27 seasons. It also never happened in the American South. You have to go back to Paschal's team that won the Southland the final year we were in the league to get the last outright regular season championship and that was 35 years ago.

    And most on this board ignore that fact.

    So, I guess those who think the regular season title is a better barometer of your program are in a distinct minority.
    Billy Kennedy just got let go from from TAMU two years removed from an SEC title and NCAA and COY honors. He had major injury issues to deal with this season, with his two best players going down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by talktomewillis View Post
    I think both are equally important. No one will ever call a season where we make it to the NCAA tournament a failure, regardless of how the team does during the regular season.

    But I also believe a better barometer of the program is the regular season. If you go out and win 27 games and win your regular season championship by four games, you've had a helluva year.

    But judging by some of the debates I've had on this board, there are several who believe losing in the league semifinals without two key figures on your team negates anything you did during a 31 game regular season.

    I'll take it a step farther. Jessie's 2004 team won the west and was the #1 seed. But there were divisions and they didn't award a regular season title. We tied for the title in 2000 with South Alabama and won the tournament.

    But Marlin's 2018 title was the first outright regular season title since we joined the Sun Belt. That's right. It had not been done in 27 seasons. It also never happened in the American South. You have to go back to Paschal's team that won the Southland the final year we were in the league to get the last outright regular season championship and that was 35 years ago.

    And most on this board ignore that fact.

    So, I guess those who think the regular season title is a better barometer of your program are in a distinct minority.

    I absolutely can see circumstances when a trip to the NCAA is a failure as a season. Being a 💩team for the regular season and getting hot, lucky, whatever winning the tournament isn’t a successful season.

    Great examples of fundamentally failing for decades isn’t a commendation of the Big Fish. He’s 8 wins in 9 seasons of the tournament. Thinking three wins in a single season. So his standard of three games in March is pretty bleak.

    In any case the argument is Bob is mired in mediocrity. Because others may have had similar issues isn’t an endorsement. What you’re actually arguing is why pick on Bob? We fired Marty, and Lee. Jesse got a bigger gig allegedly. Big Fish is going for a decade, and maybe a backers dozen of futility.

    Are the fans to expect upper average as the high water mark and shut the FK up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by talktomewillis View Post
    And most on this board ignore that fact.

    So, I guess those who think the regular season title is a better barometer of your program are in a distinct minority.
    9 years into this tenure:
    1 NCAA Tournament Apperance
    1 Out Right Sun Belt Regular Season Championship
    1 Sun Belt Tourney Championship

    I think at this point in year 10 he better make some noise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunEXPRESS View Post
    I absolutely can see circumstances when a trip to the NCAA is a failure as a season. Being a 💩team for the regular season and getting hot, lucky, whatever winning the tournament isn’t a successful season.

    Great examples of fundamentally failing for decades isn’t a commendation of the Big Fish. He’s 8 wins in 9 seasons of the tournament. Thinking three wins in a single season. So his standard of three games in March is pretty bleak.

    In any case the argument is Bob is mired in mediocrity. Because others may have had similar issues isn’t an endorsement. What you’re actually arguing is why pick on Bob? We fired Marty, and Lee. Jesse got a bigger gig allegedly. Big Fish is going for a decade, and maybe a backers dozen of futility.

    Are the fans to expect upper average as the high water mark and shut the FK up?
    My comment was made to neither extol or condemn coach Marlin.
    My opinion was asked about whether I shared the view that three games in March was all that mattered.

    My response was I feel both are important. I also stated most on this board view success on NCAA Tournament bids (which in this league, is about three days in March).

    Your response confirmed my opinion about what most here view as success.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajun_lannister View Post
    NCAA appearances make money no one cares about regular season titles. Hudspeth is a prime example nobody mentions he had only 1 shared sunbelt championship in the first 4 years the same as Bustle
    Your response that no one cares about regular season titles shows your ignorance. Nothing speaks more volumes to the overall stability of your program than success in the regular season.

    I am well aware what NCAA appearances mean, Captain Obvious.

    But you did prove my point in my response to Zephyr.

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    Quote Originally Posted by talktomewillis View Post
    Your response that no one cares about regular season titles shows your ignorance. Nothing speaks more volumes to the overall stability of your program than success in the regular season.

    I am well aware what NCAA appearances mean, Captain Obvious.

    But you did prove my point in my response to Zephyr.
    I’d have very little complaints if were were in the NIT 3 out of 5 years.

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