Baseball Roster Observation

[sportsfanatic21]

Wow, glad to know you stereotype private school kids... It's coincidence, get over it.

Lol. If that’s what you took out of all of that, then whatever.

Let me guess, you and/or your kids went/go to a private school. Right?

Let me try one more time. Neither player is better, regardless of where they went to school. But the odds are better that a public school kid that hasn’t had the same benefits in life will be more of a “grinder” type athlete at this level. Doesn’t mean every public school kid is mentally tougher than every private school kid.

[CajunRage]

Generally speaking, private school kids today are soft and entitled. I think the op is on to something.

It's all kids...

[Dad04]

Dad04,

You're missing the point.

It's not about talent. It's about mentality.

Why are there so many professional players from an island as small as the Dominican Republic? Are Dominicans genetically better baseball players? No. It's because if they want a better life, they'll do whatever it takes to be good enough.

I posted a #1 team in the country roster. And the last regional team roster. You can go look at other recent rosters here too. For whatever reason, the team has evolved into nearly all private school kids (that play). I'd argue that Kasuls and Toro seem to be more bull headed about winning than most of the other players on this years team. And they happen to be the only 2 that didn't attend private school. Wiley is another that's gotten some PT.

Add Toro, Wiley and Windham in to the opening day list I showed, and there's 3 of 12 that came from public schools. 2016 was 10 of 12. 2014 was 10 of 13.

Those were the days of tough as nails baseball at UL. Recently it's the exact opposite. Just like the numbers provided are the exact opposite from then to now.

It may be a coincidence. But you'll have a hard time convincing me that public school kids, on average, arent different mentally than private school kids. I've seen it as a student at private school for a year and public the rest of my life. I saw it as a college baseball player. I see it now with my kids and the kids they play sports with a private school.

Talent has nothing to do with it.

I didn't miss the point at all and I think we agree. You can measure 60 yard times, pop times, FB velocity and bat speed. You can sort kids by household income and whether their family has the money to give them advantages of a private education, baseball lessons and travel ball.

Scouts and recruiters all agree they cannot measure the will to win, to succeed at any cost, the required obsession to out compete against your opponent, and the refusal to quit until you are successful, or there is nothing left to give.

Since coaches can't measure heart, they do what they can, measure physical traits and simply hope the player is as obsessed with winning as they are.

Talent matters. The players are either physically AND emotionally talented, or not. If they are not gifted in both areas they get beat by players that are gifted physically AND emotionally.

[sportsfanatic21]

What? That a senior won’t let a state school
Come on his field and talk ___ with no response? Yeah, wish we had 20 more kasuls. Wonder how many other guys on this team would only miss 3 Games after septum surgery

Exactly the point.

[sportsfanatic21]

I didn't miss the point at all and I think we agree. You can measure 60 yard times, pop times, FB velocity and bat speed. You can sort kids by household income and whether their family has the money to give them advantages of a private education, baseball lessons and travel ball.

Scouts and recruiters all agree they cannot measure the will to win, to succeed at any cost, the required obsession to out compete against your opponent, and the refusal to quit until you are successful, or there is nothing left to give.

Since coaches can't measure heart, they do what they can, measure physical traits and simply hope the player is as obsessed with winning as they are.

Talent matters. The players are either physically AND emotionally talented, or not. If they are not gifted in bot areas they get beat by players that are gifted physically AND emotionally.

Apologies. I misunderstood your previous post. I 100% agree with everything here.

[jumboragncajun]

What? That a senior won’t let a state school
Come on his field and talk ___ with no response? Yeah, wish we had 20 more kasuls. Wonder how many other guys on this team would only miss 3 Games after septum surgery

Agreed! And not to mention, he is a quiet introvert off the field. Love to hear to we had someone who let their balls drop.

[CajunRage]

Exactly the point.

I admit, I was watching online and didn't hear any on field talk. It looked like Kasuls got hit with an 0-2 fastball that they tried to get up and in. 0-2 with a 9 run lead and it didn't look like they were throwing at him. I was wondering why he was upset.

[ConfusedFan]

I didn't miss the point at all and I think we agree. You can measure 60 yard times, pop times, FB velocity and bat speed. You can sort kids by household income and whether their family has the money to give them advantages of a private education, baseball lessons and travel ball.

Scouts and recruiters all agree they cannot measure the will to win, to succeed at any cost, the required obsession to out compete against your opponent, and the refusal to quit until you are successful, or there is nothing left to give.

Since coaches can't measure heart, they do what they can, measure physical traits and simply hope the player is as obsessed with winning as they are.

Talent matters. The players are either physically AND emotionally talented, or not. If they are not gifted in both areas they get beat by players that are gifted physically AND emotionally.

For what it's worth, Robe sent his kids to a private school.

[Dad04]

Apologies. I misunderstood your previous post. I 100% agree with everything here.

No worries. I was rambling about talent, but you are correct. It all boils down to throwdown. The Domincans have it in spades. They have nothing to lose and everything to gain.

I went to private school that didn't lose a wresting match the four years I was there. SRO every match. Throwdown and swag? Those guys had tractor trailers full of it....forty years ago.

[Dad04]

For what it's worth, Robe sent his kids to a private school.

As does just about everyone in Acadiana that can swing it, from what I've seen.

[CajunRage]

Lol. If that’s what you took out of all of that, then whatever.

Let me guess, you and/or your kids went/go to a private school. Right?

Let me try one more time. Neither player is better, regardless of where they went to school. But the odds are better that a public school kid that hasn’t had the same benefits in life will be more of a “grinder” type athlete at this level. Doesn’t mean every public school kid is mentally tougher than every private school kid.

You pegged me.... yes, I went to private school and played ball with many private and public school kids growing up. Our socioeconomic level was pretty much even. Saw the same thing with people's younger siblings behind us as well. It may be different in other sports. But if you want to talk in general, baseball is not as spread out as football/basketball when it comes to the haves and the have nots.

[CrazyCajun]

No worries. I was rambling about talent, but you are correct. It all boils down to throwdown. The Domincans have it in spades. They have nothing to lose and everything to gain.

I went to private school that didn't lose a wresting match the four years I was there. Throwdown and swag? Those guys had tractor trailers full of it....forty years ago.

Plenty of rich, soft spoiled and entitled kids at public school as well. It’s not a cut and dry thing but i thought it was certainly an interesting observation. Times are also changing rapidly in regards to where people send their kids to school today.