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Thread: After 25 years, Has the game and today's players passed Robe by?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunEXPRESS View Post
    I guess I don't understand the meaning of pass ya by. Robe is ultimately due the glory, and the failures. I think he can still recruit. He's gotten too lenient with some coaches, so maybe that's passed him by, except it's what he's always done.
    Robe does not recruit. Not sure the last time he did recruit. Talbot, Freeman, and Babs have done recruiting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dad04 View Post
    Southern Miss is in more regionals than us since 2000. Not shocking I guess. Recruiting is not rocket science. I'm not a recruiter, but it looks like a lot of travel, late nights, phone calls, texts and emails to players and just plain hard work.

    I used to see Kevin O'Sullivan freaking everywhere when he was at Clemson. Sully was relentless. Shortly thereafter he got the Florida Gator HC job. He signed a 10-year $12.5 million contract three years ago.
    Agree. Recruiting seems like a nonstop grind. It has to be extremely exhausting mentally and emotionally. Especially in the age of technology and social media. I think it takes a special personality to be great at both identifying and attracting talent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dad04 View Post
    Something did not translate. We had the 15th ranked recruiting class in 2015 and we see exactly where that got us. We signed 20 freshman players in the last 4 years that were complete flops. If that's not a state record, its a school record.

    Let's just say recruiting has been less than impressive.
    What if, just presenting a scenario...

    What if JT is a fantastic recruiter but a poor scout?

    Seems to me, that in order to get ranked nationally your recruits have to align with the recruiting websites.

    That does not mean they match your needs or system.

    He has shown the ability to pull them in, but in some cases its as if they peaked in high school.

    just musing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunVic View Post
    That kid has been good at Acadiana for 3 years. No travel, no late nights, no need to rely on phone calls, texts or emails - he is in your back yard - virtually no work at all to see and get him.
    Assuming he is a "good" kid, that is sad. We'd probably cut him anyways and he'd wind up in the big leagues. See? I fixed that problem...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
    What if, just presenting a scenario...

    What if JT is a fantastic recruiter but a poor scout?

    Seems to me, that in order to get ranked nationally your recruits have to align with the recruiting websites.

    That does not mean the match your needs or system.

    He has shown the ability to pull them in, but in some cases its as if they peaked in high school.

    just musing.
    Recruiting class rankings in baseball are more meaningless than preseason. How hard is it to sign kids to the only offer they get? Go look at the freshmen we signed. Mostly big busts. If Jon Lucroy only got one D1 offer, I can't believe any of the dozens of flops here in the last three years got more than one offer. That level of recruiting fail rate didn't happen here before JT got here. We had a few, but they were rare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dad04 View Post
    Assuming he is a "good" kid, that is sad. We'd probably cut him anyways and he's wind up in the big leagues. See? I fixed that problem...
    I don’t know if he is a good kid or not - he is a good baseball player and has been so for a while.

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    Default Re: After 25 years, Has the game and today's players passed Robe by?

    Quote Originally Posted by CajunVic View Post
    I don’t know if he is a good kid or not - he is a good baseball player and has been so for a while.
    We don't seem to have the first clue which freshmen to sign.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunEXPRESS View Post
    Based on what objective fact? Is he napping when he should be on duty? Is he taking fewer recruiting trips, head coaches only close? Is he letting staff do more
    I agree he may have been distracted during the final planning and building the stadium, but that's a supposition that's not been confirmed by anyone reputable.

    You may be tired of Robe, he may have problems with today's youth but to call him semi-retired is a low blow IMO.
    “Distracted during the final planning and building of the stadium”? Really? That can happen ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunProud View Post
    Something is very wrong with recruiting. I played for Acadiana (many moons ago), and am still close with one of the coaches. He has told me that it is like pulling teeth to get the coaches to go and see the quality kids at Acadiana (and this is in our own back yard). Just as an example, Acadiana has a catcher this year that is going to sign to play D1 ball. The UL coaches will not go out to see him, but guess who did: Southern Miss. When the came in to play the Cajuns, the coach for Southern Miss went to an Acadiana practice and then one of their coaches stayed behind to watch Acadiana play the next day while the rest of the team traveled to play LaTech. I am told that Southern Miss will offer him and a couple of other solid D1 programs, but he can't get a look from us. I am also told that this is not the only year where Acadiana has had quality players that UL, for whatever reason, has refused/failed to even give a look.
    Cajunproud, I could write a book on what you’re talking about that would make your head spin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunProud View Post
    Something is very wrong with recruiting. I played for Acadiana (many moons ago), and am still close with one of the coaches. He has told me that it is like pulling teeth to get the coaches to go and see the quality kids at Acadiana (and this is in our own back yard). Just as an example, Acadiana has a catcher this year that is going to sign to play D1 ball. The UL coaches will not go out to see him, but guess who did: Southern Miss. When the came in to play the Cajuns, the coach for Southern Miss went to an Acadiana practice and then one of their coaches stayed behind to watch Acadiana play the next day while the rest of the team traveled to play LaTech. I am told that Southern Miss will offer him and a couple of other solid D1 programs, but he can't get a look from us. I am also told that this is not the only year where Acadiana has had quality players that UL, for whatever reason, has refused/failed to even give a look.
    Didn’t the SS/ 2nd basemen sign with Tulane??
    I heard the Cajuns never spoke to him or seen him play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fanof71 View Post
    I'm asking the question based on last year's performance and this year's start...im not a hater, just asking question. I'll hang up and listen
    I guess I’m slow but I guess I’m needing a ‘definition’ for lack of a better word for how the game itself has changed

  12. #36

    Default Re: After 25 years, Has the game and today's players passed Robe by?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dad04 View Post
    Southern Miss is in more regionals than us since 2000. Not shocking I guess. Recruiting is not rocket science. I'm not a recruiter, but it looks like a lot of travel, late nights, phone calls, texts and emails to players and just plain hard work.

    I used to see Kevin O'Sullivan freaking everywhere when he was at Clemson. Sully was relentless. Shortly thereafter he got the Florida Gator HC job. He signed a 10-year $12.5 million contract three years ago.
    No question why that guy is so darn successful. He is a very hand's on coach. Maybe too much sometimes, but that dude is a workhorse. He has recruited some of the best college pitchers I have ever seen.

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