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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunEXPRESS View Post
    😂😂😂

    At some point cash flow matters even to the profit and loss ignorant. The crowds are bad and getting worse because she can’t put a winning team on the court but once or twice a decade.
    Their attendance this year is amongst the best its ever been and the last few years have been as good as any year outside of the 06-07 season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunNation View Post
    Trade?

    Can we trade the Pelicans for an MLB franchise?
    Get outta here with that. please.

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    Pels need to work a deal with the Celtics pronto. Put the deal in place, make it happen after the date that enables the Celtics to keep Kyrie and sign AD.

    Heyward or Tatum plus 4 first round draft picks. Make it happen. Obviously Tatum would be the clear choice, but Heyward and 4 picks will be good enough as well.


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    Quote Originally Posted by zephyr View Post
    Their attendance this year is amongst the best its ever been and the last few years have been as good as any year outside of the 06-07 season.
    Their best season isn’t good. I watch a lotta games and the best seats those along the sidelines up rarely have 75% occupancy. CMike had commented about her reluctance to sell due to her love of basketball. My comment are about a woman who in business was bouncing checks.

    I’m saying that the Pelicans cannot indefinitely not put a winning product together. Winning isn’t putting together an occasional playoff spot. They’ve got to be a force. The Mrs. Benson doesn’t need the Pelicans to retain all the goodies from the Saints deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zephyr View Post
    They can do it. When healthy they are better than most of the teams ahead of them up to about the 5th spot. The big question is how do they approach the rest of the season now? They would have to go on some winning streaks and you have your best player who is effectively checking out on that mission.
    I don't buy that when they are healthy, they are better than most teams ahead of them. Which body of work gives you this belief? They have a roster of miss matched pieces that don't fit together well. During the playoff run last year, once Cousins went down they had Mirotac, Davis and Holiday that played well as a core, played the most minutes and scored for them. They've lost Cousins that didn't play during that stretch, added Peyton and Randle they haven't played close to that level. Yes injuries have been part of the problem, but there is no talent or depth on the bench. The model of building around 1 superstar player is now failed twice with Chris Paul and Davis. Time to change the way they have built and rebuild this franchise.

    Davis is their most valuable piece, a legitimate Top 5 or 7 player in the NBA today. His is under contract until next summer, so there is no need to trade him before the deadline. You can trade him this summer or put a package around him during the draft. I would like to see this franchise build around a core of good young players and build a team around them, instead of building a team around one super star. Between Boston and LA, there is enough young pieces and draft picks to do exactly that, build around a group of young players like Tatum, Brown, Ingram, Ball, Kuzma and draft picks. They would be exiting to watch and could be very competitive with the right group of veterans very quickly. And they could manage the salary line much easier. JMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunT View Post
    I don't buy that when they are healthy, they are better than most teams ahead of them. Which body of work gives you this belief? They have a roster of miss matched pieces that don't fit together well. During the playoff run last year, once Cousins went down they had Mirotac, Davis and Holiday that played well as a core, played the most minutes and scored for them. They've lost Cousins that didn't play during that stretch, added Peyton and Randle they haven't played close to that level. Yes injuries have been part of the problem, but there is no talent or depth on the bench. The model of building around 1 superstar player is now failed twice with Chris Paul and Davis. Time to change the way they have built and rebuild this franchise.

    Davis is their most valuable piece, a legitimate Top 5 or 7 player in the NBA today. His is under contract until next summer, so there is no need to trade him before the deadline. You can trade him this summer or put a package around him during the draft. I would like to see this franchise build around a core of good young players and build a team around them, instead of building a team around one super star. Between Boston and LA, there is enough young pieces and draft picks to do exactly that, build around a group of young players like Tatum, Brown, Ingram, Ball, Kuzma and draft picks. They would be exiting to watch and could be very competitive with the right group of veterans very quickly. And they could manage the salary line much easier. JMO
    Trying to run an NBA franchise with NFL people isnt working. Blow up the front office and start from scratch. Gentry and DEmps need to go.
    Small markets are tough but if you have a generational talent and you cant put the pieces around him to compete for a title, that's on management. I think the model for winning in an NBA small market is to sell out and try to win right now and next year and then go through 3-5 years of pain until you collect the right mix of vets to do it again. The NBA is heavily tilted to large markets, that's the only way to compete.
    T is right. He is under contract for another year. No deal is done until the summer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragin4U View Post
    Trying to run an NBA franchise with NFL people isnt working. Blow up the front office and start from scratch. Gentry and DEmps need to go.
    Small markets are tough but if you have a generational talent and you cant put the pieces around him to compete for a title, that's on management. I think the model for winning in an NBA small market is to sell out and try to win right now and next year and then go through 3-5 years of pain until you collect the right mix of vets to do it again. The NBA is heavily tilted to large markets, that's the only way to compete.
    T is right. He is under contract for another year. No deal is done until the summer.
    Small market teams have to win through the draft. Can’t trade away picks for guys you can’t afford.

    Any deal that goes down with the Celtics is the best we can hope for. They have, by far the most to offer. Even if they aren’t willing to part with Tatum. They have 6 number 1 picks over the next two years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajun4life View Post
    Small market teams have to win through the draft. Can’t trade away picks for guys you can’t afford.

    Any deal that goes down with the Celtics is the best we can hope for. They have, by far the most to offer. Even if they aren’t willing to part with Tatum. They have 6 number 1 picks over the next two years.
    Boston is not giving as much as the Pels are asking. Pels wont win through the draft. Again, we had a generational talent that walks after 6 years because management refused to or was inept enough to put enough pieces around him to compete. Buy 1-2 year contracts and win now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunEXPRESS View Post
    Their best season isn’t good. I watch a lotta games and the best seats those along the sidelines up rarely have 75% occupancy. CMike had commented about her reluctance to sell due to her love of basketball. My comment are about a woman who in business was bouncing checks.

    I’m saying that the Pelicans cannot indefinitely not put a winning product together. Winning isn’t putting together an occasional playoff spot. They’ve got to be a force. The Mrs. Benson doesn’t need the Pelicans to retain all the goodies from the Saints deal.
    The Pels aren’t losing money. Revenue sharing keeps them in the black. They aren’t going anywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunRebel View Post
    The Pels aren't losing money. Revenue sharing keeps them in the black. They aren't going anywhere.
    Excuse me, but I don’t recall the sharing changing since Benson took over. The previous owner was losing double digit millions. Granted he was a terrible owner and maybe he was mostly at fault.

    We have no factual knowledge of the profit they’re making or not. But the actual fans in the stadium aren’t overcoming double digit millions loses.

    I’m hopeful that I’m wrong and they’re here forever. I’m just not sold on their financial strength.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunEXPRESS View Post
    Excuse me, but I don't recall the sharing changing since Benson took over. The previous owner was losing double digit millions. Granted he was a terrible owner and maybe he was mostly at fault.

    We have no factual knowledge of the profit they're making or not. But the actual fans in the stadium aren't overcoming double digit millions loses.

    I'm hopeful that I'm wrong and they're here forever. I'm just not sold on their financial strength.
    So we have no factual knowledge of the profit they are making or not. But you know that the previous owner was losing double digit millions?

    This report from espn says the Pels lost money before revenue sharing, but are in the black after receiving their share.

    http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/2...eason-now-what

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajun4life View Post
    Pels need to work a deal with the Celtics pronto. Put the deal in place, make it happen after the date that enables the Celtics to keep Kyrie and sign AD.

    Heyward or Tatum plus 4 first round draft picks. Make it happen. Obviously Tatum would be the clear choice, but Heyward and 4 picks will be good enough as well.
    Tatum is not on the table and we're not going to get 4 draft picks with him even if he were. They will wait until July to make any moves unless someone comes out of the woodwork and offers something that is too good to pass up.

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