So, which is it?

[CajunT]

No, my expectations aren't the same...just doing a pure results based "study"...

The study adds nothing to the argument either way. Anyone using that argument would be admitting they have no goals for MBB. For the record, if they were your expectations that's fine. It just wouldn't be mine for obvious reasons.

[CajunEXPRESS]

Also I don't believe in polls period. The Massy isn't any better. I can tell you that Tulane was a lot better 12/31/18 than 08/31/18. Troy and App State coaches didn't get bumped up based on Massy. I absolutely know we were a lot better 12/31/18 than 12/31/17 yet the records not that different.

[ULvictory]

Results have shown that football only beat teams worse than us...that is not a return...I get it's only year 1 and I wholeheartedly believe Napier is the man for the job, but we've got to compare apples-to-apples purely on results...and the results show football did absolutely nothing special this year...if we're going to schit on basketballs 27 wins b/c they were all against worse ranked teams, why are we not doing the same for football?...besides, the narrative also says winning a division title means nothing...if it does mean anything, Big Fish has 3 titles (2011 Div, 2014 Tournament & 2017 League)

Football did a lot more with a lot less last season. If you can’t see the difference between the two, then I’m sorry but I can’t help you.

Also, the results I look at for Marlin are 1 NIT berth and 1 NCAA tournament berth in 8 seasons. If Napier gives similar results by year 9, I will say the same for him.

[Turbine]

Well I need to cool my jets since I can't get upset about Marlin's pay raise till I see the full ROI numbers after a full year rolls by.

[CajunJeaux]

Football did a lot more with a lot less last season. If you can’t see the difference between the two, then I’m sorry but I can’t help you.

Also, the results I look at for Marlin are 1 NIT berth and 1 NCAA tournament berth in 8 seasons. If Napier gives similar results by year 9, I will say the same for him.

A lot more with less?...maybe I’ve misread the last year about how we’re pumping more money into football than all of our peers?...don’t forget Marlin also has a Division title, those count...

[CajunJeaux]

Well I need to cool my jets since I can't get upset about Marlin's pay raise till I see the full ROI numbers after a full year rolls by.

This is a fair statement...I should probably retract my previous statement to Express as well until Big Fish is no longer the defending champion...

[CajunEXPRESS]

I think you’re the guy who keeps saying even a broken clock ⏰ is correct twice a day. I’m waiting for the defending champion to act like he’s Mike Tyson instead of Buster Douglas. He followed up his tournament trip with nada, and looks like he’s going straight into the middle of the pack after his regular season championship. Again much more likely nada than that a boy.

[CajunJeaux]

I think you’re the guy who keeps saying even a broken clock ⏰ is correct twice a day. I’m waiting for the defending champion to act like he’s Mike Tyson instead of Buster Douglas. He followed up his tournament trip with nada, and looks like he’s going straight into the middle of the pack after his regular season championship. Again much more likely nada than that a boy.

I agree, certainly isn’t looking promising...

[ULvictory]

A lot more with less?...maybe I’ve misread the last year about how we’re pumping more money into football than all of our peers?...don’t forget Marlin also has a Division title, those count...

Again, if Napier was on year nine and producing similar results; I would say the same thing. But he overachieved last year. We were picked to finish 4th in the West in a preseason poll and ended up winning the division. Meanwhile, Marlin is on year nine with no upside to his track record.

The fact that we are on year nine and are cashing out on a season due to one injury tells me all I need to know on where the basketball program is headed.

[cajun_lannister]

Again, if Napier was on year nine and producing similar results; I would say the same thing. But he overachieved last year. We were picked to finish 4th in the West in a preseason poll and ended up winning the division. Meanwhile, Marlin is on year nine with no upside to his track record.

The fact that we are on year nine and are cashing out on a season due to one injury tells me all I need to know on where the basketball program is headed.

He is in the first year of his extension give the man time!