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    Quote Originally Posted by zephyr View Post
    I keep hearing you guys say this but how are you coming to that conclusion? Attendance? Because attendance is down in football across the country as well including ole mighty Alabama. Does that mean there is less interest in football in a football rich part of the country? I don't think so. I think you have streamed games as the main reason for that. We are a little void of top talent in the state right now but that comes and goes. I just don't necessarily believe there is a disinterest in basketball in general. We just fail to put a program out there that people typically want to see.
    The streamed games are a factor in all sports. Perhaps there are still people watching but in a different manner. As far as our team this year, the injury to Marquetti has magnified their limitations. Just appreciate every victory they can attain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajunsmike View Post
    As far as our team this year, the injury to Marquetti has magnified their limitations. Just appreciate every victory they can attain.
    There’s no doubt I’m always enjoying a nice Cajuns win. But this is where I have a problem with our basketball program’s mindset. All I’ve heard was hype when we brought in the likes of Gant, Miller, Stroman, Russell, etc.. So now that Marquetti is hurt, we should just cash it in?

    I know you’ve mentioned it before, but the injury to Marquetti and the dialogue that has gone with it tells me that either our coaching staff has underachieved in either recruiting or coaching up what we already have. There’s no way that one player should affect our season that much especially if our recruiting was hyped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ULvictory View Post
    But cost has to match the quality of what we are paying for. If we voluntarily pay for a product that has not complimented us with the results that we are paying for, then there's a problem. That's why there's people who didn't like Marlin's contract extension.

    On the other hand, we have gotten an ROI in football with a product that overachieved last year. That's all I'm saying.
    Are we getting an ROI based on our basketball standards??...we've beaten the strength of the basketball schedule horse to shreds, let's do the same for football... we finished Massey rankings at 93...we beat 124, 125, 70, 119, 121 & 97...we also lost to 105...so we beat 1 team ranked higher than us, but lost to a team worse than us (a wash there) and got throttled by P5 competition...IMO, seems identical to basketball results

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunJeaux View Post
    Are we getting an ROI based on our basketball standards??...we've beaten the strength of the basketball schedule horse to shreds, let's do the same for football... we finished Massey rankings at 93...we beat 124, 125, 70, 119, 121 & 97...we also lost to 105...so we beat 1 team ranked higher than us, but lost to a team worse than us (a wash there) and got throttled by P5 competition...IMO, seems identical to basketball results
    Football was in year one of a new regime with a program that is getting over probation and a depleted roster. And they still won the Sun Belt Western Division title and made a bowl game. The Basketball coaching staff is on year 9.

    It's safe to say that football has gotten a higher ROI so far than basketball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunJeaux View Post
    Are we getting an ROI based on our basketball standards??...we've beaten the strength of the basketball schedule horse to shreds, let's do the same for football... we finished Massey rankings at 93...we beat 124, 125, 70, 119, 121 & 97...we also lost to 105...so we beat 1 team ranked higher than us, but lost to a team worse than us (a wash there) and got throttled by P5 competition...IMO, seems identical to basketball results
    See above and below

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunJeaux View Post
    Are we getting an ROI based on our basketball standards??...we've beaten the strength of the basketball schedule horse to shreds, let's do the same for football... we finished Massey rankings at 93...we beat 124, 125, 70, 119, 121 & 97...we also lost to 105...so we beat 1 team ranked higher than us, but lost to a team worse than us (a wash there) and got throttled by P5 competition...IMO, seems identical to basketball results
    Football had a new staff in it's first year. Coach Marlin is in his 9th season, so are your expectations the same for both staff's at this time? For the record, my expectations rise with the football staff for the 2019 season in year two.

  7. UL Basketball Re: So, which is it?

    Quote Originally Posted by CajunJeaux View Post
    Are we getting an ROI based on our basketball standards??...we've beaten the strength of the basketball schedule horse to shreds, let's do the same for football... we finished Massey rankings at 93...we beat 124, 125, 70, 119, 121 & 97...we also lost to 105...so we beat 1 team ranked higher than us, but lost to a team worse than us (a wash there) and got throttled by P5 competition...IMO, seems identical to basketball results
    The difference is this was Napier first year. He's also responsible for us moving our relative standing from very nearly last to a lot better. Also his recruiting was outstanding coming in very late, and much better this year.

    On the other hand almost a decade of failure. Believe me Napier will have to be a lot better to keep the love.

    Again Jeaux ya cherry pick the stats that suits you, but ignore the stench of a decade of mediocrity. And he's embraced that, that's what is so galling. But again it's nothing new for ya to embrace Big Fish with smoke and mirrors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ULvictory View Post
    Football was in year one of a new regime with a program that is getting over probation and a depleted roster. And they still won the Sun Belt Western Division title and made a bowl game. The Basketball coaching staff is on year 9.

    It's safe to say that football has gotten a higher ROI so far than basketball.
    Results have shown that football only beat teams worse than us...that is not a return...I get it's only year 1 and I wholeheartedly believe Napier is the man for the job, but we've got to compare apples-to-apples purely on results...and the results show football did absolutely nothing special this year...if we're going to schit on basketballs 27 wins b/c they were all against worse ranked teams, why are we not doing the same for football?...besides, the narrative also says winning a division title means nothing...if it does mean anything, Big Fish has 3 titles (2011 Div, 2014 Tournament & 2017 League)

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunT View Post
    Football had a new staff in it's first year. Coach Marlin is in his 9th season, so are your expectations the same for both staff's at this time? For the record, my expectations rise with the football staff for the 2019 season in year two.
    No, my expectations aren't the same...just doing a pure results based "study"...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunEXPRESS View Post
    The difference is this was Napier first year. He's also responsible for us moving our relative standing from very nearly last to a lot better. Also his recruiting was outstanding coming in very late, and much better this year.

    On the other hand almost a decade of failure. Believe me Napier will have to be a lot better to keep the love.

    Again Jeaux ya cherry pick the stats that suits you, but ignore the stench of a decade of mediocrity. And he's embraced that, that's what is so galling. But again it's nothing new for ya to embrace Big Fish with smoke and mirrors.
    I actually think Marlin's time is done and we need fresh air next year...

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