So, which is it?

[CajunEXPRESS]

Are we getting an ROI based on our basketball standards??...we've beaten the strength of the basketball schedule horse to shreds, let's do the same for football... we finished Massey rankings at 93...we beat 124, 125, 70, 119, 121 & 97...we also lost to 105...so we beat 1 team ranked higher than us, but lost to a team worse than us (a wash there) and got throttled by P5 competition...IMO, seems identical to basketball results

The difference is this was Napier first year. He's also responsible for us moving our relative standing from very nearly last to a lot better. Also his recruiting was outstanding coming in very late, and much better this year.

On the other hand almost a decade of failure. Believe me Napier will have to be a lot better to keep the love.

Again Jeaux ya cherry pick the stats that suits you, but ignore the stench of a decade of mediocrity. And he's embraced that, that's what is so galling. But again it's nothing new for ya to embrace Big Fish with smoke and mirrors.

[CajunJeaux]

Football was in year one of a new regime with a program that is getting over probation and a depleted roster. And they still won the Sun Belt Western Division title and made a bowl game. The Basketball coaching staff is on year 9.

It's safe to say that football has gotten a higher ROI so far than basketball.

Results have shown that football only beat teams worse than us...that is not a return...I get it's only year 1 and I wholeheartedly believe Napier is the man for the job, but we've got to compare apples-to-apples purely on results...and the results show football did absolutely nothing special this year...if we're going to schit on basketballs 27 wins b/c they were all against worse ranked teams, why are we not doing the same for football?...besides, the narrative also says winning a division title means nothing...if it does mean anything, Big Fish has 3 titles (2011 Div, 2014 Tournament & 2017 League)

[CajunJeaux]

Football had a new staff in it's first year. Coach Marlin is in his 9th season, so are your expectations the same for both staff's at this time? For the record, my expectations rise with the football staff for the 2019 season in year two.

No, my expectations aren't the same...just doing a pure results based "study"...

[CajunJeaux]

The difference is this was Napier first year. He's also responsible for us moving our relative standing from very nearly last to a lot better. Also his recruiting was outstanding coming in very late, and much better this year.

On the other hand almost a decade of failure. Believe me Napier will have to be a lot better to keep the love.

Again Jeaux ya cherry pick the stats that suits you, but ignore the stench of a decade of mediocrity. And he's embraced that, that's what is so galling. But again it's nothing new for ya to embrace Big Fish with smoke and mirrors.

I actually think Marlin's time is done and we need fresh air next year...

[CajunT]

No, my expectations aren't the same...just doing a pure results based "study"...

The study adds nothing to the argument either way. Anyone using that argument would be admitting they have no goals for MBB. For the record, if they were your expectations that's fine. It just wouldn't be mine for obvious reasons.

[CajunEXPRESS]

Also I don't believe in polls period. The Massy isn't any better. I can tell you that Tulane was a lot better 12/31/18 than 08/31/18. Troy and App State coaches didn't get bumped up based on Massy. I absolutely know we were a lot better 12/31/18 than 12/31/17 yet the records not that different.

[ULvictory]

Results have shown that football only beat teams worse than us...that is not a return...I get it's only year 1 and I wholeheartedly believe Napier is the man for the job, but we've got to compare apples-to-apples purely on results...and the results show football did absolutely nothing special this year...if we're going to schit on basketballs 27 wins b/c they were all against worse ranked teams, why are we not doing the same for football?...besides, the narrative also says winning a division title means nothing...if it does mean anything, Big Fish has 3 titles (2011 Div, 2014 Tournament & 2017 League)

Football did a lot more with a lot less last season. If you can’t see the difference between the two, then I’m sorry but I can’t help you.

Also, the results I look at for Marlin are 1 NIT berth and 1 NCAA tournament berth in 8 seasons. If Napier gives similar results by year 9, I will say the same for him.

[Turbine]

Well I need to cool my jets since I can't get upset about Marlin's pay raise till I see the full ROI numbers after a full year rolls by.

[CajunJeaux]

Football did a lot more with a lot less last season. If you can’t see the difference between the two, then I’m sorry but I can’t help you.

Also, the results I look at for Marlin are 1 NIT berth and 1 NCAA tournament berth in 8 seasons. If Napier gives similar results by year 9, I will say the same for him.

A lot more with less?...maybe I’ve misread the last year about how we’re pumping more money into football than all of our peers?...don’t forget Marlin also has a Division title, those count...

[CajunJeaux]

Well I need to cool my jets since I can't get upset about Marlin's pay raise till I see the full ROI numbers after a full year rolls by.

This is a fair statement...I should probably retract my previous statement to Express as well until Big Fish is no longer the defending champion...

[CajunEXPRESS]

I think you’re the guy who keeps saying even a broken clock ⏰ is correct twice a day. I’m waiting for the defending champion to act like he’s Mike Tyson instead of Buster Douglas. He followed up his tournament trip with nada, and looks like he’s going straight into the middle of the pack after his regular season championship. Again much more likely nada than that a boy.

[CajunJeaux]

I think you’re the guy who keeps saying even a broken clock ⏰ is correct twice a day. I’m waiting for the defending champion to act like he’s Mike Tyson instead of Buster Douglas. He followed up his tournament trip with nada, and looks like he’s going straight into the middle of the pack after his regular season championship. Again much more likely nada than that a boy.

I agree, certainly isn’t looking promising...