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    Quote Originally Posted by Hatch View Post
    We are on the same page for the most part. I can see where the casual fan would not have the interest in those tournaments and by no means am I saying they should be the standard for the postseason. I’m thinking with the right level of success there would be enough interest in the program to where you don’t lose money, or at least negate the cost to a minimum for the extra practice and game experience in a rebuilding year. However maybe that level of interest in basketball as a whole in this area has passed us by.
    We may have interest if the team finished second in both the regular season and tournament with some toughness shown. Would need a known opponent as well. Otherwise it will always be a tough sell. As you say, little interest in the sport these days unless you are winning at a high level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajunsmike View Post
    We may have interest if the team finished second in both the regular season and tournament with some toughness shown. Would need a known opponent as well. Otherwise it will always be a tough sell. As you say, little interest in the sport these days unless you are winning at a high level.
    I go back to those teams from 02 and 03 which I remember well because I was a student at the time. I think teams that good are worthy of the postseason and they wouldn’t be in the NIT today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ULvictory View Post
    I definitely agree here. Paying our way into a tournament for a consoled "pat on the back" is not the direction that I have in mind for the program. It's time to earn that pay and make the postseason games that we are actually invited to participate in.

    As for bowl games, most participating schools can lose money outside of the main P5 competition. But unlike the CIT, we get the chance to be on national tv at prime time.
    So we're good with losing money...as long as it feels good while doing so?...just want to make sure I'm following...b/c football has been on national TV, what 7 out of last 8 football seasons, and we're actually losing fans by the day. Literally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunJeaux View Post
    So we're good with losing money...as long as it feels good while doing so?...just want to make sure I'm following...b/c football has been on national TV, what 7 out of last 8 football seasons, and we're actually losing fans by the day. Literally.
    No, but football is what drives the bus. Success in the sport is paramount to the trickle-down effect it will have on other sports beneath it. We have no choice but to promote it. And as far as losing money, it's still the #1 revenue generating sport for the university by a mile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ULvictory View Post
    I definitely agree here. Paying our way into a tournament for a consoled "pat on the back" is not the direction that I have in mind for the program. It's time to earn that pay and make the postseason games that we are actually invited to participate in.

    As for bowl games, most participating schools can lose money outside of the main P5 competition. But unlike the CIT, we get the chance to be on national tv at prime time.
    The recruiting value alone make the minor investment worth it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hatch View Post
    I go back to those teams from 02 and 03 which I remember well because I was a student at the time. I think teams that good are worthy of the postseason and they wouldn’t be in the NIT today.
    You are right in that the 03 and O4 teams would not be in the NIT today. They played exciting basketball. Would need that type team to have interest in CIT. Someone said it cost 60 grand to be in CIT. I think that is CBI and it is only time you pay. In CIT you pay only to host.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ULvictory View Post
    Don’t quote me on this, but I think I heard someone say that the CIT tournament cost around $60k to play in. I personally think that’s $60k too much.
    If it's $60K for the whole tournament, that's not bad considering we pay double that to bring in a low level D1 school.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajunrunner View Post
    Well we all know your special friend “Hammer51” could be headmaster of that group.
    I hope someone is passing this along to the Ole Boy. . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajunrunner View Post
    It shouldn’t. He just couldn’t take the heat. Reminded me of Mary Landrieu always whining.
    Will you relax? I am sorry your BLM people are not getting paid... LOL

    z

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunJeaux View Post
    So we're good with losing money...as long as it feels good while doing so?...just want to make sure I'm following...b/c football has been on national TV, what 7 out of last 8 football seasons, and we're actually losing fans by the day. Literally.
    When you ____ the bed on national Tv is has adverse effects.. WHO KNEW !

    Bowl games are still an NCAA event and you are paid to attend. The "c" tournaments are not an NCAA event and you have to pay to even get in. IMO it's like the softball NISC or ULM and Wyoming trying to creat the ULMOST bowl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajun_lannister View Post
    When you ____ the bed on national Tv is has adverse effects.. WHO KNEW !

    Bowl games are still an NCAA event and you are paid to attend. The "c" tournaments are not an NCAA event and you have to pay to even get in. IMO it's like the softball NISC or ULM and Wyoming trying to creat the ULMOST bowl.
    We're "paid" minimum wage to attend...you can't support a million dollar lifestyle on minimum wage payments...you can scream all you want that we got paid, but we lost a schit load of money to go play with Mickey Mouse and some Lamers in Orlando....I'm willing to bet we lost more on that trip than we did when we paid $15,000 to host a "C" tournament...hell it probably didn't cost us anything after ticket sales...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajun_lannister View Post
    When you ____ the bed on national Tv is has adverse effects.. WHO KNEW !

    Bowl games are still an NCAA event and you are paid to attend. The "c" tournaments are not an NCAA event and you have to pay to even get in. IMO it's like the softball NISC or ULM and Wyoming trying to creat the ULMOST bowl.
    Actually, most of them provide a ticket allotment that even if you sell probably won't make up the cost of attendance. The only time we did was when the NO Bowl allowed the university to sell about 23K worth of tickets from our ticket office so we shared in much more revenue than is typical for non-P5 bowls. There are a number of those with direct payouts, but you'd best be undefeated to make them.

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