MBB G13 Final: Louisiana 73, SLU 72

[zephyr]

You still don't get it. Neither do football or men's basketball at this university (and for that matter at most universities). SO YOUR POINT IS?

No, you still don't get it. see the link I just posted above from the NCAA dealing with median revenues and expenses reported per sport (Page 26). I agree that not all schools post a profit in these sports but there are also a lot of schools that do. The point that you jumped on was that softball and baseball are bigger expenses to our university than basketball is for which you responded that we couldn't be when we are selling 4,000 tickets.

[talktomewillis]

Yes, I did. I was even nice enough to respond to it. Don’t be mad that I’m not falling for your spin.

Nine years......1 NCAA and 1 NIT berth

If you don't want to understand the first three years there's nothing I can do for you.
And, as I said earlier, year nine is in progress.
The fact you read it and still said nine years tells me you are the one with the spin.

Oh, and thanks for being so nice.

[cajun4life]

If you want to qualify for the NIT every other year, you must win the league every other year and then stumble in the tournament. In today's NIT, that is the ONLY way UL is going to get a bid.

and I think winning the league and stumbling in the tournament has a lot of people _____ing here.

Ok Jay. If Big Fish was Belt regular season champs every year we would get tired of it after a few years. But we will never have to worry about that since he can only win one outright in a decade.

[CajunT]

If you don't want to understand the first three years there's nothing I can do for you.
And, as I said earlier, year nine is in progress.
The fact you read it and still said nine years tells me you are the one with the spin.

Oh, and thanks for being so nice.

Jay, I think we all understand what his first three years were after Coach Lee. But he also decided to rebuild after those three years. It's part of his resume Jay, you can't just dismiss them and call them an experiment. Did anyone get a refund on season tickets for those three seasons? There was a reason we hired a coach with his experience and resume to rebuild this program. But he decided to rebuild his program after the initial first few seasons. I guess you can dismiss the first 4 years of his resume here at UL for argument purposes, and I agree no one can argue that his last 5 seasons haven't been vastly different. His entire resumes still reads 1 NIT and 1 NCAA appearance.

[CajunVic]

No, you still don't get it. see the link I just posted above from the NCAA dealing with median revenues and expenses reported per sport (Page 26). I agree that not all schools post a profit in these sports but there are also a lot of schools that do. The point that you jumped on was that softball and baseball are bigger expenses to our university than basketball is for which you responded that we couldn't be when we are selling 4,000 tickets.

It is apparent that you have no clue what I have been saying and I definitely have no clue what you have been saying or the point which you are trying to make. I tried, you tried and we are getting nowhere. As this has no bearing on the impending govt shut down, I say we leave it at that. Have a nice evening.

[Turbine]

470 posts and counting. This is the best promotion Marlin has done for the MBB program yet. At least we are talking about basketball as many of you knuckleheads are usually already talking about baseball starting lineups and crap like that. lol.

True dat ^

[Cajunfanatico]

Sorry to tell you, however a sport that sells about 4500 season tickets generates plenty of money and doesn't "just costs the university." Now it may not be self sufficient but the words that you used are less than accurate.

That was my exact thought as well.

Also, how the athletic department reports allocated income and expenses may not always reflect the exact situation. I'm sure there's some leeway there. For instance, in this very thread, someone showed the basketball revenue and expenses balancing out to the penny. What's that tell ya?

How many season tickets does softball sell?

While I'm sure it's more expensive for a baseball or softball team to travel than it for a basketball team just due to the numbers, there are so many other factors involving each team's playing conditions, it'd be really interesting, at least to me, to see an actual breakdown of revenue and expenses by sport. The numbers might be surprising.

[ULvictory]

If you don't want to understand the first three years there's nothing I can do for you.
And, as I said earlier, year nine is in progress.
The fact you read it and still said nine years tells me you are the one with the spin.

Oh, and thanks for being so nice.

1 NIT and 1 NCAA appearance in 8 years. There. Corrected.

As for the MINIMUM demand of finishing in the top 3/4 of the Sun Belt, I’m glad we have done that. But it should be expected with our program, especially with the crummy teams we face.

But big picture here........postseason........millions of people seeing our name on a bracket when they fill it out.........

That should be our goal. And I shouldn’t constantly have to hear spin when we fail to accomplish that. As a donor, it’s insulting.

[CrazyCajun]

The post was about a balance between the sports that don't generate "profit". Sorry, I need to be very clear there as they are buoyed by those sports who do. Basketball and football in most schools are the two money generators typically. Softball and baseball don't MAKE money i.e. they don't generate a profit.

Football and basketball are “given more subsidy” than the others..it’s easier to be closer to the black when majority of your expenses are prepaid. If all the sports were forced tomorrow to supper their own programs..baseball and softball could probably do it..they have done it .the other 2 would tank.

[Hatch]

Marlin sold the farm to win last year and he will now have to pay the piper like CajunT said he has 2 years to pull it out ... will be a tall order

Last year was set up to be special and that is why that loss in the tournament hurt so much. If anything the season sacrificed for last year was 2 years ago, when he chose to have 3 scholarships sitting on the bench as transfers. He didn’t choose to have 2 scholarships on the bench this year due to torn ACLs.

[CajunT]

Football and basketball are “given more subsidy” than the others..it’s easier to be closer to the black when majority of your expenses are prepaid. If all the sports were forced tomorrow to supper their own programs..baseball and softball could probably do it..they have done it .the other 2 would tank.

Outside the Top 10 Football programs in the country, the rest are losing money for the most part without student fees or conference tv revenue share.

[zephyr]

Football and basketball are “given more subsidy” than the others..it’s easier to be closer to the black when majority of your expenses are prepaid. If all the sports were forced tomorrow to supper their own programs..baseball and softball could probably do it..they have done it .the other 2 would tank.

Man, we are getting way off base. But, to add on football and basketball also bring in more revenue from everything from donations to ticket sales to revenue sharing.