MBB G13 Final: Louisiana 73, SLU 72

[ULvictory]

It is the primary goal. Coaches and players say that often and they have been more disappointed than anyone at not reaching it more often. Only "spin" I have offered is that not having 2 of your Top 6 players at tourney time was a major factor in falling short. Previous years they were just not good enough to win it. Need to recruit better players to make it more consistently.

Come on, Mike. It’s not that we aren’t good enough. I was told that the modern landscape of college basketball doesn’t allow for it. LOL

[zephyr]

That was my exact thought as well.

Also, how the athletic department reports allocated income and expenses may not always reflect the exact situation. I'm sure there's some leeway there. For instance, in this very thread, someone showed the basketball revenue and expenses balancing out to the penny. What's that tell ya?

How many season tickets does softball sell?

While I'm sure it's more expensive for a baseball or softball team to travel than it for a basketball team just due to the numbers, there are so many other factors involving each team's playing conditions, it'd be really interesting, at least to me, to see an actual breakdown of revenue and expenses by sport. The numbers might be surprising.

Did you see the audit posted? Did you see my report by the NCAA? How do you know what money it generates in profit if you don't know the expenses?

http://www.ncaa.org/sites/default/fi...l_20180123.pdf

[Cajunsmike]

I spoke to him about last year in Houston. It's not something he is found of after listening to his comments.

OK. Thanks for response. Still wonder if he would be OK with it if donors picked up cost. He may feel it is time to focus on the diamond sports if you can't qualify for one of the two main tournaments. Still that means you have to win a championship to play in post season. 2nd place in either the regular season or tournament is not good enough. This is a minor deal in comparison to all the other decisions he has to make. I am good with whatever he says in that regard.

[Cajunsmike]

Don't know about everyone else here, but this doesn't impress me. Is it supposed to?

Not sure if it was meant to impress or not. Don't think so. I think the post of top quartile four times in five years was just given as a fact. The one year we missed was when a Bryce Washington layup at the buzzer that spun in and out at Georgia State put us in the opening round instead of 3rd. Note there are 12 teams in the league.

[CajunT]

OK. Thanks for response. Still wonder if he would be OK with it if donors picked up cost. He may feel it is time to focus on the diamond sports if you can't qualify for one of the two main tournaments. Still that means you have to win a championship to play in post season. 2nd place in either the regular season or tournament is not good enough. This is a minor deal in comparison to all the other decisions he has to make. I am good with whatever he says in that regard.

I won't discuss the details of the discussion, but we did not discuss the subject of donors picking up the cost. He did state that the funds are better spent in other areas when discussing minor tournaments.

[Cajunsmike]

Come on, Mike. It’s not that we aren’t good enough. I was told that the modern landscape of college basketball doesn’t allow for it. LOL

One team in the league wins it every year. Winning three straight games is a crap shoot. That is why so many different teams win it. I tend to agree with Zephyr in that winning the regular season championship or being in the Top 3 consistently is more reflective of a healthy program. What has changed is the abiltiy to get to the NIT or NCAA without the league title is virtually impossible.

[Cajunsmike]

I won't discuss the details of the discussion, but we did not discuss the subject of donors picking up the cost. He did state that the funds are better spent in other areas when discussing minor tournaments.

Understand not discussing details of conversation here as some things are said in confidence. I often keep some things that I hear private as well.

[TheRealZeebart]

There are 22 pages of post because we don’t agree. Of all the teams UL currently has MBB is easily a top quartile performer. Only baseball and softball are more successful. I am not happy with the current situation either, but MBB is not hurting our brand or taking funds away from our mediocre football team. Probably the craziest thing said here is we should pay our coach less than ULM and concentrate on softball. Softball!!!! A sport no one but us and 20 other schools give a ____ about.
If you want to complain about wasted resources look to softball.

Mike come on man... We have gotten rid of coaches for mediocre performances recently, we just keep rewarding this guy. Why?

Z

[ULvictory]

One team in the league wins it every year. Winning three straight games is a crap shoot. That is why so many different teams win it. I tend to agree with Zephyr in that winning the regular season championship or being in the Top 3 consistently is more reflective of a healthy program. What has changed is the abiltiy to get to the NIT or NCAA without the league title is virtually impossible.

Winning the regular season championship will always be an accomplishment. But in the broader picture, does it really push the program forward if we can’t make the dance? I know there’s bad teams out there who make the dance by getting hot at the right time, but give me a team with a winning record and a tournament berth any day of the week. The national exposure we get tops anything else we accomplish.

[Cajunfanatico]

Did you see the audit posted? Did you see my report by the NCAA? How do you know what money it generates in profit if you don't know the expenses?

http://www.ncaa.org/sites/default/fi...l_20180123.pdf

Zeph, I know something about profits and losses. I also know what's reported by the university and by the NCAA can be very convoluted, to say the least. Coaches salaries? Well, those in La are reported only to the level that Louisiana law allows, everything else is covered by RCAF donations, yada yada yada.

Not sure exactly your point with your comments above. Perhaps you're even agreeing with me.

As it relates to my comments about the sale of baseball and softball season tickets, or any season ticket sales for any sport at the university, know the number, know the value, and one can at least make some sense of a revenue stream to the university from those respective sports.

That's all I was saying.