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  1. #133

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    Quote Originally Posted by CAJUNJUDO View Post
    Well damn, I’ll take a bullet in the leg if I must. Either Santa wasn’t good to you or you’re caught up in that western

    It is an either or question. Do you want to fund basketball or football?

    You can CLEARLY see by looking up and down the Top 25 list that most teams fit one of the following:

    1) Don’t care about football and have sucked for years
    2) Play FCS football (I just realized Butler has a football team...haha)
    3) Don’t even have a football team

    I get you would like to be like Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State, Florida (in the past), Oklahoma, etc. I would too, but we don’t have the funds to contribute endlessly.
    That’s where I’m at. We’re not going to dominate the SBC in every sport. With limited resources, if I had my biased choice, we’d hammer our opponents in football, softball, baseball and track. The rest of the sports for me...eh.

    But I think for many of the posters here who complain about Marlin, his salary has something to do with it. If the university did take the philosophy of “let’s win in these sports and not worry about MBB” and paid Marlin “only” $150k a year, you wouldn’t see as much complaining about the coaching.

    That’s not the case, though. He’s making half a million a year. For that price, I think there’s a lot of Cajun fans expecting more results.

  2. UL Basketball Re: MBB G13 Final: Louisiana 73, SLU 72

    Quote Originally Posted by CAJUNJUDO View Post
    Well damn, I'll take a bullet in the leg if I must. Either Santa wasn't good to you or you're caught up in that western

    It is an either or question. Do you want to fund basketball or football?

    You can CLEARLY see by looking up and down the Top 25 list that most teams fit one of the following:

    1) Don't care about football and have sucked for years
    2) Play FCS football (I just realized Butler has a football team...haha)
    3) Don't even have a football team

    I get you would like to be like Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State, Florida (in the past), Oklahoma, etc. I would too, but we don't have the funds to contribute endlessly.
    I don't agree that it's an either or question.

    One game in the NCAA covers the Big Fish salary. For an individual school in the SBC there's no payday like an NCAA trip. If you win it doubles, triples as long as you win. Bowl games except for the New Year Six, a truly long shot requires your fan base to support, baseball offers little in post season dollars.

    Finally, and this is one of my pet peeves about Marlin. He's not leading any charge to gain money besides what UL provides and that roundballer coaches luncheon. Virtually every coach has one of those boosters luncheon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VObserver View Post
    No one suggested he should hire Evans. We are not better than mediocrity; we are the very definition of mediocre.
    162-115 is not the definition of mediocre. Should Marlin's teams be better, I think so, but they aren't mediocre ... they are just disappointing to a large contingent of the fans.

  4. UL Basketball Re: MBB G13 Final: Louisiana 73, SLU 72

    I hope Marquetti's injury isn't bad and he recovers quickly. GWS


  5. Default Re: MBB G13 Final: Louisiana 73, SLU 72

    He wins 58 of his games. He’d absolutely be fired if he won much less over a protracted timeline. I sure don’t think mediocrity is 50/50, but that’s just me.


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    Default Re: MBB G13 Final: Louisiana 73, SLU 72

    119-64 over the last 5+ seasons is 65%. Once again, disappointing to us fans, but still not mediocre.


  7. #139

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    Ron Hunter is 117-64 over the last 5+ seasons. Difference is he has won big games and is seen as the premier program in Sun Belt.


  8. Default Re: MBB G13 Final: Louisiana 73, SLU 72

    He doesn’t have a winning record with anybody that matters, top 150. That’s my minimum. You can enjoy your bottom 200 wins all you want.


  9. #141

    Default Re: MBB G13 Final: Louisiana 73, SLU 72

    I don't enjoy them. Only stating facts that disappointing is different than mediocre. Disappointing is a feeling and if Marlin had two or three notable wins in the last 5 years, he would be viewed differently by us fans.


  10. UL Basketball Re: MBB G13 Final: Louisiana 73, SLU 72

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman66 View Post
    Ron Hunter is 117-64 over the last 5+ seasons. Difference is he has won big games and is seen as the premier program in Sun Belt.
    Hunter isn't very good that’s why he’s still at GaSt, but he's definitely the best SBC coach over the long haul. He gets to check the following boxes. Round if 32, multiple NCAA appearances, NIT, regular season championship. At the end of the day it's the SBC he's dominating, and Bob isn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman66 View Post
    I don't enjoy them. Only stating facts that disappointing is different than mediocre. Disappointing is a feeling and if Marlin had two or three notable wins in the last 5 years, he would be viewed differently by us fans.
    Depends on your view of noteable. To me that’d be a team that’s in the NCAA often, and round of 32 regularly. Good wins definitely top 150, and he’d need more than two or 3 between noteable and good.

    I hope you understand I’d have a different view of Bobby Boy if UL history was more like Nicholls.

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    You are making my point for me. One more NCAA appearance (granted, he got to 2nd round), same number of NIT appearances, and one more regular season championship.

    So, based on your description, if Marlin wins the regular season championship and gets to the NCAA this season, he is as good as Hunter?

    For the record, I think Marlin is a better coach than Hunter, but definitely isn't the recruiter Hunter is. Hunter is better overall because his is that much better a recruiter and Marlin is a marginally better coach.


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