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    Quote Originally Posted by cajun_lannister View Post
    BREAKING: #WVU’s Dana Holgorsen is expected to become the next head coach at #Houston, per sources. UH offered Holgorsen the kind of deal that WVU brass wouldn’t at $20 million over five years. The deal is expected to be wrapped up in the next 36 hours. SB Nation was first on it.

    Well colored me shocked
    There are four million reasons per year to not be shocked.

    Houston is paying P5 money. WVU can't come close to $4 million a year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by talktomewillis View Post
    There are four million reasons per year to not be shocked.

    Houston is paying P5 money. WVU can't come close to $4 million a year.
    They can. But they won't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VObserver View Post
    They can. But they won't.
    In hindsight, won't will be viewed as couldn't.

    Houston will determine if the echo of coulda woulda shoulda is heard.

  4. #340

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajun_lannister View Post
    BREAKING: #WVU's Dana Holgorsen is expected to become the next head coach at #Houston, per sources. UH offered Holgorsen the kind of deal that WVU brass wouldn't at $20 million over five years. The deal is expected to be wrapped up in the next 36 hours. SB Nation was first on it.

    Well colored me shocked
    Houston ain't messin' around.

    https://www.sbnation.com/college-foo...-west-virginia

    And in addition to the 20 million reasons:

    "For Holgorsen, the decision between WVU and Houston can be boiled down to one simple question: is it harder to lure talent from places like Houston, Dallas and Florida to far-flung Morgantown, or is it harder to keep a portion of Texas talent in-state at a Group of 5 school?"

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    I live in Morgantown and WVU can certainly pay $4mil, the facilities are very nice and they get a ton of money from the Big 12. The sense of the fans I know and what I've seen of Holgerson is that you'll only get 8-9 wins per season. He's only had two 10 win seasons and one was with Bill Stewart's team, he has a pretty bad bowl record. Also, no Big 12 championships with Texas being down for quite a while, ZERO wins against OU. This team was his best by far with Grier and Sills back and the best defense he's ever had and he lost the last three games of the year.

    I am surprised he left to go to AAC. If WVU had won out they would have been in the conversation for the playoff but they pooped the bed instead. He will never be in the conversation at UH.

    I'm not excited that he's gone but I feel that WVU could do better, but as with all coaching hires that's to be determined later if it worked out well or not.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajun'Eer View Post
    I live in Morgantown and WVU can certainly pay $4mil, the facilities are very nice and they get a ton of money from the Big 12. The sense of the fans I know and what I've seen of Holgerson is that you'll only get 8-9 wins per season. He's only had two 10 win seasons and one was with Bill Stewart's team, he has a pretty bad bowl record. Also, no Big 12 championships with Texas being down for quite a while, ZERO wins against OU. This team was his best by far with Grier and Sills back and the best defense he's ever had and he lost the last three games of the year.

    I am surprised he left to go to AAC. If WVU had won out they would have been in the conversation for the playoff but they pooped the bed instead. He will never be in the conversation at UH.

    I'm not excited that he's gone but I feel that WVU could do better, but as with all coaching hires that's to be determined later if it worked out well or not.
    8-9 wins per season may be the max WVU can attain in the Big 12 regardless of who is coach. They have nice facilities but that pales compared to Texas and OU.

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    Could be very true, which is why I said it's to be determined if the hire will be better.

    WVU can pay $4mil but won't for Holgerson and it's easy to see why when you look at his record.

    Comparing about 95% of the facilities in the country to OU and Texas is a pretty fruitless exercise.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajun'Eer View Post
    I live in Morgantown and WVU can certainly pay $4mil, the facilities are very nice and they get a ton of money from the Big 12. The sense of the fans I know and what I've seen of Holgerson is that you'll only get 8-9 wins per season. He's only had two 10 win seasons and one was with Bill Stewart's team, he has a pretty bad bowl record. Also, no Big 12 championships with Texas being down for quite a while, ZERO wins against OU. This team was his best by far with Grier and Sills back and the best defense he's ever had and he lost the last three games of the year.

    I am surprised he left to go to AAC. If WVU had won out they would have been in the conversation for the playoff but they pooped the bed instead. He will never be in the conversation at UH.

    I'm not excited that he's gone but I feel that WVU could do better, but as with all coaching hires that's to be determined later if it worked out well or not.
    Supposedly Holgorsen still has a home in Houston and remains good friends with Fertitta from his OC days under Sumlin. That coupled with the fact that he doesn’t think he could get a much better team in Morgantown (this was “the year”) left him feeling the administration was getting restless. Perfect time for him to get back down south and leverage for more money while doing it.

    Former South Stallion and Mohigan myself.

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    I'd agree with this analysis 100%, he was on the hot seat especially after the performance with what some think could have been the best WVU in many a year, if ever.


  10. #346

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    Quote Originally Posted by talktomewillis View Post
    There are four million reasons per year to not be shocked.

    Houston is paying P5 money. WVU can't come close to $4 million a year.
    Can't? Seriously? WVU gets a $25 million check from the Big 12 every year.

  11. #347

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    Quote Originally Posted by talktomewillis View Post
    There are four million reasons per year to not be shocked.

    Houston is paying P5 money. WVU can't come close to $4 million a year.
    Houston knows what's on the horizon they are making a statement with this hire showing the P5 they should be included in the next realignment. Regardless of how successful Holgorsen is at UH this positions them to have a seat at the table.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CAJUNJUDO View Post
    Supposedly Holgorsen still has a home in Houston and remains good friends with Fertitta from his OC days under Sumlin. That coupled with the fact that he doesn’t think he could get a much better team in Morgantown (this was “the year”) left him feeling the administration was getting restless. Perfect time for him to get back down south and leverage for more money while doing it.

    Former South Stallion and Mohigan myself.
    Sounds like a solid assessment on your part. Plus, if the article I posted is accurate and he feels he can do a better job of recruiting the talent he needs right there in the state of Texas, he'll have less stress putting together his teams.

    The bar's set pretty high at Houston. We'll see if he can clear it. If not, next man up.

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