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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragin9221 View Post
    We either need to adapt or die! The traditional football fan is a dying breed. Most people go for the game, but between TV, and other things we have to make it fun for the average fan.

    Look at it like Soccer. Soccer is not that popular in the U.S. So they focus on making the fans comfortable and amenities to get fans to the game. We need to do the same thing at Cajun Field and think outside the box to grow the attendance and brand !!

    Playing Grambling is not a bad way to kick off the season, and get fans to the game!
    Soccer is very popular in the U.S. Its one of the most played sports, perhaps the most, in the country. From a spectator standpoint it may not be as popular but that's due more to a lack in high profile professional teams and really little college soccer presence. I think that's changing though. I watch a lot of soccer, even in the fall and winter, sometimes at the expense of football.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragin9221 View Post
    Here is the Article without the diagrams!

    When Minnesota hosted Nebraska at TCF Bank Stadium last year, the game featured charismatic new Golden Gophers coach P.J. Fleck, a home team fighting for a bowl berth and a big-name opponent. The announced attendance was 39,933—an OK crowd for a crisp November day in Minneapolis—but it didn't tell the whole story.

    Only 25,493 ticketed fans were counted at the gates, 36% lower than the announced attendance and about half of the stadium's capacity. More than 14,000 people who bought tickets or got them free didn't show up.

    College football has an attendance problem. Average announced attendance in football's top division dropped for the fourth consecutive year last year, declining 7.6% in four years. But schools' internal records show that the sport's attendance woes go far beyond that.

    The average count of tickets scanned at home games—the number of fans who actually show up—is about 71% of the attendance you see in a box score, according to data from the 2017 season collected by The Wall Street Journal. In the Mid-American Conference, with less-prominent programs like Central Michigan and Toledo, teams' scanned attendance numbers were 45% of announced attendance.

    Announced Attendance Isn't the Whole Story
    The number of tickets scanned at the stadium vs. team announced attendance for home games, in 2017




    Notes: Teams not included in the data said they don't keep scanned ticket counts, had invalid counts, didn't respond or are exempt from public-records law; private schools are not required to comply

    Sources: school records; athletics website box scores

    Even teams in the nation's five richest conferences routinely record thousands fewer people passing through stadium gates than they report publicly. The no-shows reflect the challenge of filling large venues when nearly every game is on TV, and they threaten a key revenue source for college athletic departments.

    "Attendance drives recruiting, attendance drives donations, merchandise sales," said Rob Sine, who until earlier this year was president of IMG Learfield Ticket Solutions, which works with dozens of colleges. If fans don't use their tickets, he added, "they're more likely to not come back."

    Most schools scan and keep count of tickets used at football games. The Journal requested access to those counts under public-records law, and most public schools supplied them. Private schools aren't subject to public-records law.

    Minnesota's gap between scanned and announced attendance could have been worse—its announced attendance doesn't include stadium staff, marching bands or media, as many other schools do. A Minnesota spokesman said officials were unavailable to comment.

    hen Arkansas hosted No. 21 Auburn, scanned attendance was more than 25,000 lower than announced attendance. Overall last season, Arkansas's scanned home attendance was 58% of its announced attendance as the Razorbacks went 4-8. Nonetheless, Reynolds Razorback Stadium is reopening Saturday after a $160 million renovation that increased capacity by about 4,000. An Arkansas spokesman declined to comment.

    Attendance Gap Leaders
    Football programs with the largest gap between tickets counted at their home stadium and announced attendance in 2017






    Sources: school records; athletics website box scores

    Florida State, which won the 2013 national title, last season had a scanned attendance that was 57% of its announced attendance. FSU spokesman Rob Wilson blamed personnel and technical issues in scanning tickets and said, "We do not believe the difference is as large as the data appears to show."

    Sine, the ticketing expert who's now chief revenue officer at ticketing company AXS, said technology has improved to the point that scanning errors generally have a minor effect on ticket counts.

    Attendance is more than a vanity issue. The NCAA requires schools to maintain a 15,000 "actual or paid" home attendance on a rolling two-year average to stay in football's top division.

    Many schools take a generous approach in compiling announced attendance, by including ushers, security guards and even the guy at the concession stand who sells you a Coke. That partly explains how Purdue's announced attendance last season spiked 13,433 per game—the largest jump in college football. (Purdue didn't report how many tickets it actually scanned last year, citing what a spokesman called "outdated equipment, connectivity problems and user error.")

    The NCAA accepts the announced attendance numbers schools submit "at face value," NCAA spokesman Christopher Radford said.

    Despite the rising value of TV-rights contracts, football ticket sales and donations often make up more than half of athletic-department revenues. College sports officials say many factors are incenting fans to stay home including: affordable big-screen TVs; the availability of more games on TV; ever-changing kickoff times that make it difficult to plan ahead; games that span more than four hours; traffic; and rising ticket prices.



    Sagging student attendance remains a problem, even at perennial power Alabama. As part of a recently announced renovation of Bryant-Denny Stadium, the school plans to add a student terrace to create "a more interactive and social environment," athletic director Greg Byrne said.

    The renovations also will add more club and lounge areas and slightly reduce the stadium's 101,821 capacity, part of a trend of downsizing college football stadiums.

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    Crowds at South Carolina have ebbed in recent years and scanned attendance made up 78% of the Gamecocks' announced attendance last season. South Carolina held a one-day sale for the season opener against Coastal Carolina: $18.01 per ticket in honor of the school's founding year. It sold 3,100 of those.

    "If you're in the upper deck and buying a ticket for 45 bucks, and the choice is, I can sit on my couch and have a really good view, you might do that," said Lance Grantham, associate athletic director for ticketing and customer relations. "The [TV] product is just outrageously good."

    Public attendance numbers are part of some schools' identity. Michigan Stadium, the "Big House," whose 107,601 capacity is the nation's largest, still claims a streak of 100,000-plus attendance games dating back to 1975, even though two games last year showed fewer than 80,000 scanned tickets.

    A Michigan spokesman said surges of fans at gates just before kickoff sometimes prompt workers to tear tickets rather than scanning them. Michigan counts the media, stadium workers and marching bands in its announced attendance.


    Nebraska boasts a sellout streak that dates to the 1962 season. But during last year's 4-8 record, there was an average gap of more than 18,000 per game between scanned and announced attendance—mostly no-shows, a spokesman said.

    A general view of Memorial Stadium in Lincoln, Neb. Nebraska boasts a sellout streak that dates to the 1962 season.
    A general view of Memorial Stadium in Lincoln, Neb. Nebraska boasts a sellout streak that dates to the 1962 season. PHOTO: NATI HARNIK/ASSOCIATED PRESS
    Free tickets often are counted among attendance figures even if they're never used. California, on the hook to repay the cost of a $321 million renovation for Memorial Stadium unveiled in 2012, gave away 57,108 tickets last season. That's nearly an entire free game at the 62,467-seat stadium. About 35% of the free tickets were used, school officials say.

    "Our sales and marketing team continues to look for more creative and unique ways to bring fans to Memorial Stadium," said Joe Mulford, senior associate athletic director and chief revenue officer.

    Not every school pumps up its attendance figures. Of the nearly 100 football programs that gave data to the Journal, just one used a turnstile count for its announced attendance: Navy.


    Said athletic director Chet Gladchuk: "It is just the way we do business."
    Thanks!

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    I don't think it's a soccer vs football vs anything else thing. I think the coming generations just are not as interested in sports in general. I brought my two boys to Cajuns games every year from 3 years old on up and one of them runs cross country and takes MMA classes but otherwise has zero interest in sports, and the other likes sports, plays what he can, but never watches it on TV and can take it or leave it live. He likes to go to the games sometimes just for the event, but never really gets into it. They were exposed to it regularly, it just didn't take like it took for me. There is just more competition for their attention. It's not necessary a bad thing. There has been too much importance and emphasis put on athletes and sports in general in society for the last 30 years anyway....imo.


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    Quote Originally Posted by charliek View Post
    I don't think it's a soccer vs football vs anything else thing. I think the coming generations just are not as interested in sports in general. I brought my two boys to Cajuns games every year from 3 years old on up and one of them runs cross country and takes MMA classes but otherwise has zero interest in sports, and the other likes sports, plays what he can, but never watches it on TV and can take it or leave it live. He likes to go to the games sometimes just for the event, but never really gets into it. They were exposed to it regularly, it just didn't take like it took for me. There is just more competition for their attention. It's not necessary a bad thing. There has been too much importance and emphasis put on athletes and sports in general in society for the last 30 years anyway....imo.
    I would agree with this. Both of my kids plays multiple sports and my son enjoys football as I do but their interest in going to cajun games is mild at best. Too many things they can do and have access to now via their phones and game devices to want to be at a football game it seems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charliek View Post
    I don't think it's a soccer vs football vs anything else thing. I think the coming generations just are not as interested in sports in general. I brought my two boys to Cajuns games every year from 3 years old on up and one of them runs cross country and takes MMA classes but otherwise has zero interest in sports, and the other likes sports, plays what he can, but never watches it on TV and can take it or leave it live. He likes to go to the games sometimes just for the event, but never really gets into it. They were exposed to it regularly, it just didn't take like it took for me. There is just more competition for their attention. It's not necessary a bad thing. There has been too much importance and emphasis put on athletes and sports in general in society for the last 30 years anyway....imo.
    I can speak from my own point of view. I used to watch sports non stop but now I only follow UL athletics. Last year I watched 10 minutes of the NFL and it was during the super bowl. I have a lot of interest and those supersede sports.

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    College Football games are too long...By about an hour and half. My kids complain how long a high school game is. Soccer and basketball have it right, 2-2.5 hours.


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    The writer chose to ignore as did those he interviewed the skyrocketing ticket prices to support the facilities 'arms race'. It doesn't take much to price out fans, even die hard fans. I think the season ticket holding fans are taken for granted, especially at the perienel top ten programs, the thinking is the fans aren't going anywhere. Facts are those older fans dying off aren't being fully replaced by younger fans. Could be the culture, costs are becoming a big factor too.


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    Why modern stadiums are all high speed wifi friendly. Need to adapt to clientel.

    UL would be wise to make this a marketable strength


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    Miss State greatly aided their paid attendance. Even then only 28K and change.

    https://hailstate.com/boxscore.aspx?...&path=football


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    Quote Originally Posted by charliek View Post
    I don't think it's a soccer vs football vs anything else thing. I think the coming generations just are not as interested in sports in general. I brought my two boys to Cajuns games every year from 3 years old on up and one of them runs cross country and takes MMA classes but otherwise has zero interest in sports, and the other likes sports, plays what he can, but never watches it on TV and can take it or leave it live. He likes to go to the games sometimes just for the event, but never really gets into it. They were exposed to it regularly, it just didn't take like it took for me. There is just more competition for their attention. It's not necessary a bad thing. There has been too much importance and emphasis put on athletes and sports in general in society for the last 30 years anyway....imo.
    That's a good example of why we need to bowl in the NEZ and not play babysitter to a bunch of kids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonCajun View Post
    That's a good example of why we need to bowl in the NEZ and not play babysitter to a bunch of kids.
    So it’s empty? It’s a reason to not bowl it in, we don’t need it. Attendance will only Keeo getting worse so you want to add more seats? In a non premium viewing area?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonCajun View Post
    That's a good example of why we need to bowl in the NEZ and not play babysitter to a bunch of kids.
    It's actually a good example of why NEZ seats will never be needed. When I was a kid I watched the game. I also tried to get my kids to like football. They think it has too much dead time with too many rules. Go to a soccer game. Ball is called out of bounds. The other team picks it up and throws it in. In football they may deliberate for 5 minutes if the runners toe was out of bounds. It is tedious and simply does not help gain new fans. We don't mind it as much because we fell in love with the sport at a young age and have accepted the incremental changes to the sport. Increased Prices, endless commercial breaks, instant replay and convoluted rules have diluted interest in the game.
    That said, most sports would love to have the attendance problems of football. Even with all its flaws it is still compelling when two evenly matched teams play.

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