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Thread: Technically ULS has no "Flagship" (+USN&WR)

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    Default Re: Technically ULS has no "Flagship"

    Quote Originally Posted by cajun_lannister View Post
    Freshmen class was 3,100+ this year
    Thanks CL

  2. #92

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    Quote Originally Posted by cypremort View Post
    That is correct. 2018 is not released. I would expect the enrollment to be flat or maybe slighly lower. Upper classman (because of recent focus on retention) and graduate enrollment is probably higher. I would expect that the LSU A&M "holistic" approach, ie, lowering the ACT admission requirements to below ours will impact our freshmen enrollment.
    Based on cajun_lannister's numbers it appears that my fears were unfounded.

  3. #93

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    Quote Originally Posted by cypremort View Post
    That is correct. 2018 is not released. I would expect the enrollment to be flat or maybe slighly lower. Upper classman (because of recent focus on retention) and graduate enrollment is probably higher. I would expect that the LSU A&M "holistic" approach, ie, lowering the ACT admission requirements to below ours will impact our freshmen enrollment.
    Agreed: people need to understand that we are already (for all practical purposes) at our stated goal of 20K by 2023. We do not currently have the infrastructure (classroom space, faculty, etc.) to go much beyond that within our current footprint. So I don't think we will see much change in the undergrad numbers....but where we are looking to improve on is our number of grad students, which is a much more difficult proposition than undergrads. I would be willing to bet that we will continue to see improvement in that area like we have in the reent past.
    Nothing better illustrates our strategy as when you compare our acceptance rates to the likes lsua&m and ltu. While lsu is just under a mind blowing 80%, LTU is right after that with almost 70%...while we are just over 50%. And lsua&m is about to get even worse when they lower SAT requirements. All of this is just noting less than incredible. Can you imagine how backwards this state looks to outsiders? Maybe thats because we are?

  4. #94

    Default Re: Technically ULS has no "Flagship" (+USN&WR)

    FYI, these are official numbers.

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  5. #95

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajun_lannister View Post
    Freshmen class was 3,100+ this year 300 More than last year
    where did you get this info? Here is the link to the official numbers that I have, and they only have up to 2017.

    https://apps.regents.state.la.us/Rep...enrl/FPENRLRPT

  6. #96

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    Quote Originally Posted by cypremort View Post
    That is correct. 2018 is not released. I would expect the enrollment to be flat or maybe slighly lower. Upper classman (because of recent focus on retention) and graduate enrollment is probably higher. I would expect that the LSU A&M "holistic" approach, ie, lowering the ACT admission requirements to below ours will impact our freshmen enrollment.
    You forget about on-line students. That should increase enrollment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaCajunsFan View Post
    where did you get this info? Here is the link to the official numbers that I have, and they only have up to 2017.

    https://apps.regents.state.la.us/Rep...enrl/FPENRLRPT
    Admissions office had a social media post about it

  8. #98

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    Quote Originally Posted by cypremort View Post
    Why should we celebrate? We need to acheive R1 before we celebrate. According to USNWR we are in the same category as LTU, ULM and UNO. No reason for celebration, IMO.
    We are still a National University at Tier 2 (230 - 301 with no ranking) with USN&WR along with ULM, UNO and now LA Tech who is no longer USN&WR Tier 1 now that they have dropped down to Carnegie R3 with ULM. You are correct, nothing to celebrate as we have achieved nothing with USN&WR. Only LA Tech is the loser, if people want to celebrate that. When we hit Carnegie R1 in 2020, we should achieve Tier 1 with USN&WR (likely in 2021 as they are always a year behind).

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonCajun View Post
    We are still a National University at Tier 2 (230 - 301 with no ranking) with USN&WR along with ULM, UNO and now LA Tech who is no longer USN&WR Tier 1 now that they have dropped down to Carnegie R3 with ULM. You are correct, nothing to celebrate as we have achieved nothing with USN&WR. Only LA Tech is the loser, if people want to celebrate that. When we hit Carnegie R1 in 2020, we should achieve Tier 1 with USN&WR (likely in 2021 as they are always a year behind).
    How the hell did ULM get in the National Colleges ranking? Up until last year they were always in the Regional category.

  10. #100

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaCajunsFan View Post
    Now Im sure it'll be 'it never really meant much anyway,' ...... which is why they have shoved it down everyone's throats about it when they did have it.

    2020 and R1 status can't get here quick enough.
    So far it looks pretty quiet over on the BBBbs site. They have already fully embraced the even more subjective Forbes "rankings" but not a peep about the shunning they received from USNWR.

  11. #101

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    Quote Originally Posted by AstroCajun View Post
    So far it looks pretty quiet over on the BBBbs site. They have already fully embraced the even more subjective Forbes "rankings" but not a peep about the shunning they received from USNWR.
    Yeah, the headline on the school website is "Louisiana Tech makes USNWR National Universities list for eighth straight year" .... no more trying to imply that they are better than everyone else.

    So to be clear, they have now regressed in the two most important school rankings: dropped from T1 to T2 in the USNWR, and.....much more important....from R2 to R3 in the Carniege study.

    Definitely not a very good trend they got going there.

  12. #102

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaCajunsFan View Post
    Yeah, the headline on the school website is "Louisiana Tech makes USNWR National Universities list for eighth straight year" .... no more trying to imply that they are better than everyone else.

    So to be clear, they have now regressed in the two most important school rankings: dropped from T1 to T2 in the USNWR, and.....much more important....from R2 to R3 in the Carniege study.

    Definitely not a very good trend they got going there.
    Depends on your perspective. I think it is a GREAT trend.

  13. #103

    Default Re: Technically ULS has no "Flagship" (+USN&WR)

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/23/us/un....html?ofs=fbia

    Friday morning reading about the rankings done by USNWR


  14. #104

    Default Re: Technically ULS has no "Flagship" (+USN&WR)

    Quote Originally Posted by GeauxLouisiana View Post
    https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/23/us/un....html?ofs=fbia

    Friday morning reading about the rankings done by USNWR
    From the article:

    "The rankings are based largely on data provided by the universities,"

    In other words. COMPLETE BULL____.

  15. Default Re: Technically ULS has no "Flagship" (+USN&WR)

    Quote Originally Posted by GeauxLouisiana View Post
    https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/23/us/un....html?ofs=fbia

    Friday morning reading about the rankings done by USNWR
    .......time for a check up on La Tur and it’s submitted stats......we exceed them in alumni, enrollment, reasearch, budget, and other areas but ranking, aithough higher in other measurements, still falls short here.....need to see why?

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