Top 5 returning prep QBs

[Just1More]

IMO as a salesman...never not approach a target bc someone says they’re not interested...I’ve had people tell me I’m wasting time, that business will never switch vendors....massage that relationship long enough and you’ll get their attention & potential work....should also state they must be worth it...

T isn't saying that no interest was shown by UL. There may have been some indication he has no intent of staying in Lafayette for college and/or has no interest in UL. No coach goes ahead and offers to a sure loss. You don't put your name on a list just to have your name on a list. Further, if the body of work is incomplete, we may gauge there's time for reconsideration (either party). There's an implication in this thread that if Tech and others offered... and we didn't... in our own back yard... we're doing something wrong. My first assumption would be our staff knows something we do not. It would not be "Napier must be an idiot... he isn't even looking in our own back yard and protecting our local high grade stock.".

[CajunJeaux]

T isn't saying that no interest was shown by UL. There may have been some indication he has no intent of staying in Lafayette for college and/or has no interest in UL. No coach goes ahead and offers to a sure loss. You don't put your name on a list just to have your name on a list. Further, if the body of work is incomplete, we may gauge there's time for reconsideration (either party). There's an implication in this thread that if Tech and others offered... and we didn't... in our own back yard... we're doing something wrong. My first assumption would be our staff knows something we do not. It would not be "Napier must be an idiot... he isn't even looking in our own back yard and protecting our local high grade stock.".

I totally agree on the don’t offer just to offer...would look bad if we offer just bc and he selects someone else...I was just under impression we’re really not expressing any interest in him...just stating we can make a push without offer initially...again all assuming he’s worth some effort...

[Just1More]

IMO as a salesman...never not approach a target bc someone says they’re not interested...I’ve had people tell me I’m wasting time, that business will never switch vendors....massage that relationship long enough and you’ll get their attention & potential work....should also state they must be worth it...

If you are actually in sales... I think you know what "opportunity cost" is. Don't let some bunghole in your delivery system convince you there's equal return on equal time spent. I will always drop off a business card and attempt to educate any potential customer on my offering. I will not spend time or generate "exercise proposals" on people I deem as low success targets. Using your resources wisely is excruciatingly important. Do not think for a second that local talent hasn't been given the first pass sales evaluation.

If I approach what appears to be a really hot babe at a distance... and after my opening icebreaker she says, "I don't date guys with great sex skills"... I absolutely know that I'm out. Why bother? I move on to the next babe that appreciates a master craftsman. I'm not going to offer her just so she can put me on her "Facebook wall of offers". I'm taking the risk that my friends will say, "dude, she's a babe... and she's very accessible!". But true friends know, "I have a nose for babes.". If I didn't offer... there's more to the story.

[CajunJeaux]

If you are actually in sales... I think you know what "opportunity cost" is. Don't let some bunghole in your delivery system convince you there's equal return on equal time spent. I will always drop off a business card and attempt to educate any potential customer on my offering. I will not spend time or generate "exercise proposals" on people I deem as low success targets. Using your resources wisely is excruciatingly important. Do not think for a second that local talent hasn't been given the first pass sales evaluation.

If I approach what appears to be a really hot babe at a distance... and after my opening icebreaker she says, "I don't date guys with great sex skills"... I absolutely know that I'm out. Why bother? I move on to the next babe that appreciates a master craftsman. I'm not going to offer her just so she can put me on her "Facebook wall of offers". I'm taking the risk that my friends will say, "dude, she's a babe... and she's very accessible!". But true friends know, "I have a nose for babes.". If I didn't offer... there's more to the story.

I guess it all depends on what product/service you’re pitching...I’m not in widget or off the shelf items...so IMO providing solid proposals is a must to get their attention...now after couple of missed opportunities...we re-evaluate moving forward amount of proposal resources we will spend, if any...however I strongly believe a visit/lunch once a month or quarter hurts no one and has paid dividends for still being there literally years later when competition slips up...

Relating to football...i can admit I don’t know much about recruiting...but if the kid lives in your backyard, but has others on the radar...I just would think a visit with him every so often can’t hurt to stay in his mind...

[Just1More]

I guess it all depends on what product/service you’re pitching...I’m not in widget or off the shelf items...so IMO providing solid proposals is a must to get their attention...now after couple of missed opportunities...we re-evaluate moving forward amount of proposal resources we will spend, if any...however I strongly believe a visit/lunch once a month or quarter hurts no one and has paid dividends for still being there literally years later when competition slips up...

Relating to football...i can admit I don’t know much about recruiting...but if the kid lives in your backyard, but has others on the radar...I just would think a visit with him every so often can’t hurt to stay in his mind...

I get your generalized advice. You're making the assumption UL isn't doing Sales 101 in our back yard. You and I don't know what they've done. But to make the assertion that they've done nothing... just because an athlete doesn't have an offer from us, or even doesn't show we're interested... wouldn't be my first assumption.

One thing about recruiting that is also similar to other business sales... I prefer my sales isn't visible to others... unless that visibility benefits me in the sale. And when it comes to recruiting offers... they aren't as arbitrary as sales proposals. You don't give everyone a public offer. You are correct that there's a level of proposal that is a useful sales vehicle. But you don't burden your proposal resources with deep diving content for longshot opportunities. Do not assume our recruiters (and our legion of volunteers) aren't canvassing the talent... especially local... determining who to focus on... and how much.

I've read and been told a litany of supposed recruiting mistakes we've made in the past. Most I take with a grain of salt. Why? I have dozens of personal experiences where these supposed "misses" were generated by someone with a personal beef with UL. I had a few beers with a Tech recruiter many years ago... and he told me that UL does great assessments of Louisiana talent... and fights hard for recruits. He gave me reasons I don't want to post as our biggest setbacks with certain recruits. His information seems to line up with issues we've had. I don't think Napier (so far from what I've heard) is following in the usual pattern.

[KajunKrazy]

Let me ask you and others this, does anyone know his opinion on the staff and this program? Has he told Napier he's not interested in UL or isn't interested? I'm just asking because there is a whole lot of assumptions being made here on the subject. He clearly is visiting P5 programs during camps and already has an offer from Cincinnati, so exactly how serious is he when it comes to UL?

#STM QB Caleb Holstein (@caleb_holstein6) heading soon to #UGA, #HailState, #LaTech & #LSU.

LaTech & #USM target coming off a great spring — including some solid throwing performances in front of Tech’s Tim Rattay & LSU’s Steve Ensminger among others. pic.twitter.com/CippZPd5VU

— Jerit Roser (@JeritRoser) May 25, 2018

I have heard from a few friends today, in separate conversations, that although the kid has all the physical tools, he sometimes lacks accuracy and consistency.

[sportsfanatic21]

I have heard from a few friends today, in separate conversations, that although the kid has all the physical tools, he sometimes lacks accuracy and consistency.

That's an accurate description. But, he still has 2 years of high school ball left. There's a very good chance that he ends up with multiple P5 offers by the time he's done. He's got a lot of the stuff you can't coach or teach.

[Rainman66]

When talking about recruiting, as in any sport, projection plays a big role. Projecting players is extremely subjective and becomes even more so, the younger the player is.

Everything we have read and heard about Napier is that there is a very regimented recruiting process. He has already stated how they will prioritize geographically. I, for one, believe that geographic proximity should only break ties, not give someone an advantage over superior abilities.

[CajunJeaux]

I get your generalized advice. You're making the assumption UL isn't doing Sales 101 in our back yard. You and I don't know what they've done. But to make the assertion that they've done nothing... just because an athlete doesn't have an offer from us, or even doesn't show we're interested... wouldn't be my first assumption.

One thing about recruiting that is also similar to other business sales... I prefer my sales isn't visible to others... unless that visibility benefits me in the sale. And when it comes to recruiting offers... they aren't as arbitrary as sales proposals. You don't give everyone a public offer. You are correct that there's a level of proposal that is a useful sales vehicle. But you don't burden your proposal resources with deep diving content for longshot opportunities. Do not assume our recruiters (and our legion of volunteers) aren't canvassing the talent... especially local... determining who to focus on... and how much.

I've read and been told a litany of supposed recruiting mistakes we've made in the past. Most I take with a grain of salt. Why? I have dozens of personal experiences where these supposed "misses" were generated by someone with a personal beef with UL. I had a few beers with a Tech recruiter many years ago... and he told me that UL does great assessments of Louisiana talent... and fights hard for recruits. He gave me reasons I don't want to post as our biggest setbacks with certain recruits. His information seems to line up with issues we've had. I don't think Napier (so far from what I've heard) is following in the usual pattern.

I think you are correct in that I may have made some pre-mature assumptions...based on some of the comments...I may have wrongly assumed we weren’t talking to the kid...here’s to hoping he’s a great player/kid and we have a shot at getting him...

[Big Poppa]

I am not a LHS supporter but I heard there is a sophomore that may beat out the SR?

[Cajunfanatico]

If I approach what appears to be a really hot babe at a distance... and after my opening icebreaker she says, "I don't date guys with great sex skills"... I absolutely know that I'm out. Why bother? I move on to the next babe that appreciates a master craftsman. I'm not going to offer her just so she can put me on her "Facebook wall of offers". I'm taking the risk that my friends will say, "dude, she's a babe... and she's very accessible!". But true friends know, "I have a nose for babes.". If I didn't offer... there's more to the story.

Interesting observations. I learned that when they said, "I don't date outside my species", my chances dropped off dramatically.