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    Quote Originally Posted by zephyr View Post
    OK, I'll take the bait and ask you to please point out your criteria for "High Level Recruits" that we have on our bench, especially when we lose major talent after this year and how they will ensure we have a top 100 team? Kobe Julien, by all accounts is the real deal and we will like him here. Nobody knows what to expect with Gladney and we just lost a big as he transferred out. We may have a really nice player here or there but where is the core of the highly rated team you speak of going to come from? An overweight, under the rim post player who thinks he Boogie Cousins?
    Julien is the star of the class. He outplayed the Smart kid who signed with LSU more than once in his HS career. Only reason he did not have more "stars" was because he was leaning in our direction all along. Very unfortunate he suffered an injury as he would have been heavily relied on as a freshman. His injury is why we signed a JUCO guard and I have high hopes for him. Amongst the freshman being brought in, the point guard from Texas (think his name is Wesley) is one they believe can make an impact. Staff has said they won't have the concern at point when Stroman goes out this coming season as they now have a competent backup. That is encouraging as Stroman tends to commit silly fouls at times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajunsmike View Post
    Julien is the star of the class. He outplayed the Smart kid who signed with LSU more than once in his HS career. Only reason he did not have more "stars" was because he was leaning in our direction all along. Very unfortunate he suffered an injury as he would have been heavily relied on as a freshman. His injury is why we signed a JUCO guard and I have high hopes for him. Amongst the freshman being brought in, the point guard from Texas (think his name is Wesley) is one they believe can make an impact. Staff has said they won't have the concern at point when Stroman goes out this coming season as they now have a competent backup. That is encouraging as Stroman tends to commit silly fouls at times.
    Again Mike, I have no doubt we will have competent players. The debate is whether they are considered "High recruits". Outside of Julien, I don't think any of them are so I'm not sure where Rebel's argument is, especially when he's stating that they will be the reason we are a top 100 ranked team in the near future. We will need a lot more talent brought in to achieve that after this year. Stroman, Gant and Marquetti are high level guys who could play for P5 teams and already have. We will REALLY miss them when they are gone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajunsmike View Post
    Very difficult to compare other sports to softball. Softball resources are similar to are far superior to most of the teams in the nation. That is not true for any other sport.
    I don’t follow you . Please explain “Softball resources are similar or superior to most teams in the nation . “

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    I don’t follow you . Please explain “Softball resources are similar or superior to most teams in the nation . “
    The resources we have here for softball are on par with the elite teams in the country. You know, things like a state of the art stadium, great fan base who donates money to the team. That sort of thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunRebel View Post
    People need to get over this idea of “big” wins.

    ULM beat Alabama a few years ago. Their program still sucks ___.
    They could not build upon that. They suck, they are UL-Monroe. The idea is that you win one of those then your chances of repeating that feat until it becomes more consistent are better. What would you rather do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zephyr View Post
    Again Mike, I have no doubt we will have competent players. The debate is whether they are considered "High recruits". Outside of Julien, I don't think any of them are so I'm not sure where Rebel's argument is, especially when he's stating that they will be the reason we are a top 100 ranked team in the near future. We will need a lot more talent brought in to achieve that after this year. Stroman, Gant and Marquetti are high level guys who could play for P5 teams and already have. We will REALLY miss them when they are gone.
    I tend to agree with Rebel's comment. first the bar of a top 100 team is not extremely high to begin with. next with us currently being a top 100 team, its easier to stay there with momentum, which i believe we have been given with the 3 transfers you mentioned, with marquetti have 2 more years in the program. now about the "high recruits" part. we signed russell last year, and julien this year. no reason to think we wont get another one next year. one high recruit per year is slow improvement, but it keeps you in the top 100, along with as yall say competent players around them. there is no reason to think We're not set up to be a top 100 RPI team for the next few years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balanced_view View Post
    I tend to agree with Rebel's comment. first the bar of a top 100 team is not extremely high to begin with. next with us currently being a top 100 team, its easier to stay there with momentum, which i believe we have been given with the 3 transfers you mentioned, with marquetti have 2 more years in the program. now about the "high recruits" part. we signed russell last year, and julien this year. no reason to think we wont get another one next year. one high recruit per year is slow improvement, but it keeps you in the top 100, along with as yall say competent players around them. there is no reason to think We're not set up to be a top 100 RPI team for the next few years.
    Again, you aren't answering the question. What is a "High Recruit"? Russell was not considered a highly rated guy by outside recruiting services. Julien, depending on which you look at, can be considered a good get but is he a highly rated guy? I'm not sure where you are seeing we will have Marquetti another year but he is a senior. So, outside of the three guys we lose this year, we have Russell, Wesley, Julien, Gladney, Jerekius Davis, K. Lafayette, J. Miller, Eli Mouton and P.J. Hardy.

    Now, look at the season we had this year which was a top 100 RPI year and look at how we played. You saw P5 talent mixed in with efficient veterans who ALL defended. After this year, tell me what you see on the bench that will give you a product who can play like that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tank View Post
    I don’t follow you . Please explain “Softball resources are similar or superior to most teams in the nation . “
    Most softball teams do not have a stadium as nice as ours. All the teams in the north fight weather causing lack of interest. Generally most programs in the country Have few people caring about them even when very successful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zephyr View Post
    Again Mike, I have no doubt we will have competent players. The debate is whether they are considered "High recruits". Outside of Julien, I don't think any of them are so I'm not sure where Rebel's argument is, especially when he's stating that they will be the reason we are a top 100 ranked team in the near future. We will need a lot more talent brought in to achieve that after this year. Stroman, Gant and Marquetti are high level guys who could play for P5 teams and already have. We will REALLY miss them when they are gone.
    Agree Julien is high level recruit while others will likely be good players but may not have the ceiling he does. Agree we will miss transfers which is why I hope we can bring in another inside transfer with 2 years remaining

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    Quote Originally Posted by zephyr View Post
    Again, you aren't answering the question. What is a "High Recruit"? Russell was not considered a highly rated guy by outside recruiting services. Julien, depending on which you look at, can be considered a good get but is he a highly rated guy? I'm not sure where you are seeing we will have Marquetti another year but he is a senior. So, outside of the three guys we lose this year, we have Russell, Wesley, Julien, Gladney, Jerekius Davis, K. Lafayette, J. Miller, Eli Mouton and P.J. Hardy.

    Now, look at the season we had this year which was a top 100 RPI year and look at how we played. You saw P5 talent mixed in with efficient veterans who ALL defended. After this year, tell me what you see on the bench that will give you a product who can play like that?
    Russell was a highly rated recruit while committed to LSU. His ranking dropped when he flipped to us. His improvement will be critical this season. He has to defend with more focus. Made strides in that area towards end of season but not enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zephyr View Post
    Again, you aren't answering the question. What is a "High Recruit"? Russell was not considered a highly rated guy by outside recruiting services. Julien, depending on which you look at, can be considered a good get but is he a highly rated guy? I'm not sure where you are seeing we will have Marquetti another year but he is a senior. So, outside of the three guys we lose this year, we have Russell, Wesley, Julien, Gladney, Jerekius Davis, K. Lafayette, J. Miller, Eli Mouton and P.J. Hardy.

    Now, look at the season we had this year which was a top 100 RPI year and look at how we played. You saw P5 talent mixed in with efficient veterans who ALL defended. After this year, tell me what you see on the bench that will give you a product who can play like that?
    i missed on marquetti. thought he was a soph this season. so to answer your question for me high recruit can be 3 star at 84-89 rating with both russell and julien being rated in that range. for me 90-99 is the elite recruit. and personally i think julien was underrated and is bottom elite level. but thats just my take on him. so your turn, what do you feel is a highly rated guy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zephyr View Post
    After this year, tell me what you see on the bench that will give you a product who can play like that?
    so your question is a projection for 2 years from now right, so with russell and julien, Gladney could be every bit the high level player by that time, who knows yet, the new juco guard looks like a player and that will be his senior season,could be just what we need and whatever freshman we recruit next year, tbd. to your point this current roster will be different in 2 seasons, but no reason to think things get worst.

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