Basketball Scheduling Changes

[Cajunsmike]

I love it now we need to work on dropping no-D1 games to futher help our RPI in the future

RPI has no bearing from non D1 games. You do improve it if you play a quality opponent and beat them. Jay made a big point on his show today that your recommendation should be implemented however.

[ULvictory]

College Basketball is dying on the vine for exactly what you just stated regarding the P5. They're trying to create a monopoly within the sport, and we saw it with that travesty of a tournament bracket this past season. What's ironic is that the mid-majors shut them up with the amount of upsets that occurred. But that won't change anything. It might actually make everything worse because the P5 monopoly doesn't want that. But they could care less of ruining the fun of upsets for the millions of people who fill out brackets.

Also, you can include what AAU and the fact that it has turned into a political machine/business along with the secret illegal contacts made between the likes of Nike and Under Armor with the colleges who are following the "one and done" model. Basically, it's organized crime through collegiate athletics.

I think CUSA and the SBC are playing catch-up at this point. They're trying to stay relevant in this time of change. It's definitely a start, but I think it might be too late. I hope that I'm wrong, but the style of basketball played now plus the fact that the politics that have gotten heavily involved has ruined the sport for me.

[CajunT]

The following is something I posted on the other thread I started on this topic. Turbine, feel free to combine the two threads.

Jay and Scott talked about this on their shows today.

These changes are as a result of recommendations made by Mark Adams (ESPN color guy on mid major broadcasts and former mid major coach). Mr. Adams is a scheduling consultant hired by the SBC, CUSA, and the Horizon League. I suspect the scheduling alliance referred to in the article involves those three leagues. However, a part of me is skeptical CUSA would agree to this with the SBC due to the belief of many of those schools such a move would indicate they are going backwards. On April 10, Mr. Adams made a presentation to Rebounders Club members who were available. I was fortunate to be able to attend part of the meeting. In that meeting he outlined this proposal. Obviously we could not make this public until things become official and it was unknown at that time what would be approved. We were told the league wanted to make the announcement and they did so today. There are a couple of interesting tidbits from that meeting that I recall. One, a Big 10 athletic administrator was caught saying the Big 6 leagues (Football P5 plus Big East) have a goal to eliminate all mid major at large bids in the near future. They virtually have done this now by scheduling almost all non conference games at home or on neutral courts. That will continue. The new selection criteria of how you did vs Top 50, Top 100 etc allows the big boys to be close to their goal now. 2nd he claimed that CUSA has agreed to the scheduling alliance with the SBC. As stated earlier, a part of me finds that hard to believe. Overall, this is a good move for the league and indicates a willingness to try something new. The pod system is definitely out of the box thinking. Playing the semi finals and finals at the Smoothie King Center is also a good move vs Lake Front Arena. Plenty of downtown hotels near SKC and you only stay one night. What do you guys think about these changes.

Mike, Basinbear and myself have been talking about schedule alliances for a few years now. This will be on the docket for football soon as well, after the next conference realignment. In fact, there won't be much more movement in actual conference realignment after the current TV Contracts expire. We will see more of it when it comes to NCAA Football within 5 to 7 years.

[Cajunsmike]

If they could prove that the administrator said there is a goal of eliminating mid major bids, a lawsuit may be viable. Not that I would advocate such a step as their are too many things in court now. Still, you are correct that this situation is hurting the sport.

[ULvictory]

If they could prove that the administrator said there is a goal of eliminating mid major bids, a lawsuit may be viable. Not that I would advocate such a step as their are too many things in court now. Still, you are correct that this situation is hurting the sport.

Prime example: Oklahoma making the tournament over St. Mary's

Oklahoma didn't win a single conference road game, lost 13 games during the regular season, and bounced out early in the Big 12 tournament. Somehow, they get a 10 seed.

St. Mary's wins close to 30 regular season games while being ranked in the top 25 all season long. No automatic bid. NIT bound.

Then, the NCAA tries to pull a fast one by pairing Oklahoma with Rhode Island (10 vs. 7 seed) thinking that Oklahoma would win due to their conference affiliation only to lose in OT and get bounced out in the first round.

What these jack wagons don't understand is that they're killing their brand with their organized crime activities. At this point, I will still go to the UL basketball games due to being a fan. But unfortunately, I won't expect much more after that just by the way the model is being implemented.

[Cajunsmike]

Prime example: Oklahoma making the tournament over St. Mary's

Oklahoma didn't win a single conference road game, lost 13 games during the regular season, and bounced out early in the Big 12 tournament. Somehow, they get a 10 seed.

St. Mary's wins close to 30 regular season games while being ranked in the top 25 all season long. No automatic bid. NIT bound.

Then, the NCAA tries to pull a fast one by pairing Oklahoma with Rhode Island (10 vs. 7 seed) thinking that Oklahoma would win due to their conference affiliation only to lose in OT and get bounced out in the first round.

What these jack wagons don't understand is that they're killing their brand with their organized crime activities. At this point, I will still go to the UL basketball games due to being a fan. But unfortunately, I won't expect much more after that just by the way the model is being implemented.

The lack of at large bid possibility for mid majors is a major reason why basketball popularity has declined significantly in recent years. The fact they are still available in baseball and softball is a factory in why those sports have gained popularity over basketball in recent years.

[basinbear]

Prime example: Oklahoma making the tournament over St. Mary's

Oklahoma didn't win a single conference road game, lost 13 games during the regular season, and bounced out early in the Big 12 tournament. Somehow, they get a 10 seed.

St. Mary's wins close to 30 regular season games while being ranked in the top 25 all season long. No automatic bid. NIT bound.

Then, the NCAA tries to pull a fast one by pairing Oklahoma with Rhode Island (10 vs. 7 seed) thinking that Oklahoma would win due to their conference affiliation only to lose in OT and get bounced out in the first round.

What these jack wagons don't understand is that they're killing their brand with their organized crime activities. At this point, I will still go to the UL basketball games due to being a fan. But unfortunately, I won't expect much more after that just by the way the model is being implemented.

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[CajunEXPRESS]

RPI has no bearing from non D1 games. You do improve it if you play a quality opponent and beat them. Jay made a big point on his show today that your recommendation should be implemented however.

Mike, schedule a non div I program and your RPI is neutral. In a very real way that's a loss of RPI. Schedule an elite on the road, lose and improve your RPI. So yes standing still can hurt.

We need to eradicate this bogus nonsense that playing a non Div I isn't harmful. Granted it’s not as harmful as beating #225 rated RPI teams.

[Duggie35]

I like the changes Mike. The SBC needs to also stop scheduling non-D1 schools. Maybe this will help. I like the on campus games for the first few rounds and moving to the Smoothy King is a great improvement. Not sure how all this will work long term, but something needed to change. Let’s see how this works.

[Cajunsmike]

I like the changes Mike. The SBC needs to also stop scheduling non-D1 schools. Maybe this will help. I like the on campus games for the first few rounds and moving to the Smoothy King is a great improvement. Not sure how all this will work long term, but something needed to change. Let’s see how this works.

I agree with your points here.

[CajunPride]

I like any change that helps your best team through the whole year get to wreak havoc in the big dance. Also reduces the watered down home schedule which will attract more fan attendance for home games, especially in the last month of the season.

[Cajunsmike]

Mike, schedule a non div I program and your RPI is neutral. In a very real way that's a loss of RPI. Schedule an elite on the road, lose and improve your RPI. So yes standing still can hurt.

We need to eradicate this bogus nonsense that playing a non Div I isn't harmful. Granted it’s not as harmful as beating #225 rated RPI teams.

Jay strongly advocated they be done away with on his show today. Note the scheduling changes don’t go into effect this season so we may have one or two again this coming year. Perhaps they disappear in 2019-2020.