Baseball Coach or Life Coach

[MetryCajun]

It’s not acceptable to continually not build off the success of the program. It’s not acceptable to see a downward trend but then continue the status quo because JT has a rough 2017 year. Loyalty to a fault.

TCU has been to 4 straight CWS tournaments. Yea the draft probably hit them, but I promise they’ll be back in 2019. Will we though?

Two different arguments. No one here advocates the status quo. Other than Talbot’s family, everyone wants him to be fired. A new coach has to happen and if he is retained, Robe needs to state why and handle the justified criticism.
As for continuing to build off success, that is the goal but it is almost never achieved. Programs like ours are not able to just reload, because we are not getting the sure fire talent. We do get some very good players, but we are not consistently attracting the talent of an SEC or ACC team. I am not happy with how this year played out, but I will be curious to see how the current players improve. That has alway been the key to our success.

[Dad04]

You have to be mentally tough in order to struggle the way we did this year and not lose more than two straight games all season. You have to be resilient, which is mental toughness.

They were pretty tough until it counted for all the marbles last week.

[angeleast]

Stance, load, and swing have been becoming generalized in most hitting programs since the late 90's. It is getting implemented in baseball camps with young kids. That's why you see guys by the time they are in high school and college have similar styles.

You still see international players with unique stances and loads. Although the swing when broken down itself is pretty similar across the board.

I was browsing the net and came across an article that basically said todays swing approach is based on analytics etc. Seems the human approach is being lessened.

[cajunhawk]

Two different arguments. No one here advocates the status quo. Other than Talbot's family, everyone wants him to be fired. A new coach has to happen and if he is retained, Robe needs to state why and handle the justified criticism.
As for continuing to build off success, that is the goal but it is almost never achieved. Programs like ours are not able to just reload, because we are not getting the sure fire talent. We do get some very good players, but we are not consistently attracting the talent of an SEC or ACC team. I am not happy with how this year played out, but I will be curious to see how the current players improve. That has alway been the key to our success.

[cajunhawk]

Hawk, you don't believe in grinding my dude? Grinding was one of my favorite KEG activities back in the day. LOL.

I'm having flashbacks of Sisqo...

[ManAboutTown]

Two different arguments. No one here advocates the status quo. Other than Talbot’s family, everyone wants him to be fired. A new coach has to happen and if he is retained, Robe needs to state why and handle the justified criticism.
As for continuing to build off success, that is the goal but it is almost never achieved. Programs like ours are not able to just reload, because we are not getting the sure fire talent. We do get some very good players, but we are not consistently attracting the talent of an SEC or ACC team. I am not happy with how this year played out, but I will be curious to see how the current players improve. That has alway been the key to our success.

What exactly do you people mean when you say “programs like ours”? You mean, programs in the most talent rich area in America? Programs in the south, where baseball is still the most popular youth sport and still second most popular sport to football? Maybe you mean G5, which I’m pretty sure coastal Carolina barely qualifies for, yet they are 2 years removed from a National Championship and are hosting again this year...

[CajunRage]

You may not want him fired today...but if he doesn’t change his approach, you’re insinuating that you DO want him gone...you said in OP you want him to talk baseball, not life lessons...well guess what...he ain’t changing....and if you’re rebuttal will be you want him to win...then his life-lessons coaching style is irrelevant and shouldn’t have been brought up to begin with...only on-field results should have...

Me wanted him gone if things don’t change is much more reasonable than you saying he should be retained without knowing the future. This program is trending in the wrong direction and has all but completely failed to capitalize on the 2014 success. My point in bringing up the life lessons coaching style is what I believe is taking priority over executing on the field. Therefore, it is very relevant.

[cajunhawk]

What exactly do you people mean when you say “programs like ours”? You mean, programs in the most talent rich area in America? Programs in the south, where baseball is still the most popular youth sport and still second most popular sport to football? Maybe you mean G5, which I’m pretty sure coastal Carolina barely qualifies for, yet they are 2 years removed from a National Championship and are hosting again this year...

Also top 10 in attendance in the nation.

[zephyr]

It’s a bad recipe having a successful, tenured coach who is still relatively young on staff??...that is 2 years removed from great success...and has had a hiccup for 2 consecutive seasons, one including a conference championship without his all-American??...yeah, maybe it’s time we put him out to pasture...

So what would be your suggestion(s) of fixing this thing then? I think everyone agrees that there are issues that are manifesting themselves into poor play, coaching and recruiting. I'm sure there are a few things you see that need to be done?

[CajunRage]

Two different arguments. No one here advocates the status quo. Other than Talbot's family, everyone wants him to be fired. A new coach has to happen and if he is retained, Robe needs to state why and handle the justified criticism.
As for continuing to build off success, that is the goal but it is almost never achieved. Programs like ours are not able to just reload, because we are not getting the sure fire talent. We do get some very good players, but we are not consistently attracting the talent of an SEC or ACC team. I am not happy with how this year played out, but I will be curious to see how the current players improve. That has alway been the key to our success.

[MetryCajun]

What exactly do you people mean when you say “programs like ours”? You mean, programs in the most talent rich area in America? Programs in the south, where baseball is still the most popular youth sport and still second most popular sport to football? Maybe you mean G5, which I’m pretty sure coastal Carolina barely qualifies for, yet they are 2 years removed from a National Championship and are hosting again this year...

I mean G5 schools. None of them are perennial powerhouses. They all have down years. Heck, look how mediocre Georgia and Alabama are. Even they can’t contend every year. Let’s see how this plays out. I think we just need to find a couple of diference makers and we are right back to where we all want to be. I just don’t buy the notion that we are some special program that can easily reload every year. Even the powerhouse programs have bad stretches.

[CajunProud]

Life lessons or not, this is my personal belief from a baseball fan perspective only.

My biggest issue with Tony has been the lack of consistency. It seems that after we have a very successful season, we tend to take a step or two backwards, see the 2001 season as well as the 2011 and 2012 seasons and the last 3 years. This program had success before Tony. We are in a talent rich state. We have one of the best fan bases in America (see attendance number over the last decade or so). We have a palace to play in. I understand that we don't attract SEC type caliber players every year, but we should be able to attract talent just below that level, and then develop the talent. There is absolutely zero excuse for UL not to be in post season 4 out of every 5 years, period.