Baseball Coach or Life Coach

[CajunRage]

Yeah..... that's the problem. Guy spends too much time being a mentor and not enough time coaching baseball. You should sit down with him and let him know that. Explain to him what his shortcomings are and how he doesn't spend his time wisely.

It’s cool man. You’re loyal to Robe. I have a loyalty to him as well. That is why I don’t think he should be fired or that even being discussed. The question needs to be asked though. Take his name out of the equation and answer this question.

If you had the facilities we do, if you were coming off of the consensus #1 ranking 2 years ago, if you were watching a peer (coastal) do big things in a smaller conference and now same conference, all while losing 7 straight series to start a season, produce one of the weakest offenses in the country and get bounced from the conference tourney that we hosted by 19 runs in two games, would you be telling any other coach that he needs to mentor his kids more or would you be telling him to coach them up and win?

[Boomer]

It’s cool man. You’re loyal to Robe. I have a loyalty to him as well. That is why I don’t think he should be fired or that even being discussed. The question needs to be asked though. Take his name out of the equation and answer this question.

If you had the facilities we do, if you were coming off of the consensus #1 ranking 2 years ago, if you were watching a peer (coastal) do big things in a smaller conference and now same conference, all while losing 7 straight series to start a season, produce one of the weakest offenses in the country and get bounced from the conference tourney that we hosted by 19 runs in two games, would you be telling any other coach that he needs to mentor his kids more or would you be telling him to coach them up and win?

.....I played for Saints and Sinners and there were wins and losses......however there were a lot of championships at a high level......one thing that went with the Ws were better players than the opposition had!!!

[cajunhawk]

The answer is right there...staring us in the face. He has his escape plan mapped out. He knows what his next move is. Baseball is becoming a hindrance to what could be a lucrative career selling books and speeches to his followers about Grinding. Some won't believe it, make excuses, use the words "make no mistake" or "if you know the man", and generally ignore the writing on the wall with Tony. He's checking out, riding the clock, collecting checks...all while planning his getaway while still having his loyal followers there to bankroll his next endeavor.

[Rougarou]

It’s cool man. You’re loyal to Robe. I have a loyalty to him as well. That is why I don’t think he should be fired or that even being discussed. The question needs to be asked though. Take his name out of the equation and answer this question.

If you had the facilities we do, if you were coming off of the consensus #1 ranking 2 years ago, if you were watching a peer (coastal) do big things in a smaller conference and now same conference, all while losing 7 straight series to start a season, produce one of the weakest offenses in the country and get bounced from the conference tourney that we hosted by 19 runs in two games, would you be telling any other coach that he needs to mentor his kids more or would you be telling him to coach them up and win?

But he has done the same thing in the past and won. It is perfectly reasonable to criticize Robe as his teams have fallen short and not met expectations. But the mentoring has not taken away from his teams that were highly successful. I don't think Cajun90 or I are suggesting that Robe is infallible, only that the point of contention you and others have does not appear to be the likely issue.

It is fair to ask the question though, but I think the evidence suggests the problem is more of his loyalty to certain other coaches when they aren't performing. The things he has delegated have not worked out either I believe. He had to spend a lot of his personal time getting that stadium built as Farmer was not doing his job.

I have a genuine belief that Robe will do what needs to be done. No matter what he does or does not do, if he continues to not meet expectations, we all know what will happen.

[GeauxLouisiana]

Yes he’s won, but hasn’t won consistently. Outside of the stretch from 2013-2016, he’s never made postaseason more than 2 years in a row. We’d make one, then spend 2 years missing out.

Coastal won it all in 2016 and is already back to hosting after not making it in the following year. Meanwhile, we’re 4 years removed from #1 in the country, 3 years removed from last super regional, 2 years removed from last time hosting, and now out in back to back years while having the one of the most putrid offenses in the country and a pitching staff that had too much pressure put on them.

Is a change going to be made? Honestly, I don’t think history points to a change being made. When has Tony ever fired a coach? They’ve always left for another job or left baseball altogether.

[LaCajunsFan]

But he has done the same thing in the past and won. It is perfectly reasonable to criticize Robe as his teams have fallen short and not met expectations. But the mentoring has not taken away from his teams that were highly successful. I don't think Cajun90 or I are suggesting that Robe is infallible, only that the point of contention you and others have does not appear to be the likely issue.

It is fair to ask the question though, but I think the evidence suggests the problem is more of his loyalty to certain other coaches when they aren't performing. The things he has delegated have not worked out either I believe. He had to spend a lot of his personal time getting that stadium built as Farmer was not doing his job.

I have a genuine belief that Robe will do what needs to be done. No matter what he does or does not do, if he continues to not meet expectations, we all know what will happen.

I agree with you: I do not think that the two things (Mentoring and succeeding) are mutually exclusive. You can do both at the same time, as has been done in the past.
I guess the question is what he is doing/not doing on the 'succeeding' part these last past few seasons.....and what he needs to do to right the ship.

[Boomer]

Yes he’s won, but hasn’t won consistently. Outside of the stretch from 2013-2016, he’s never made postaseason more than 2 years in a row. We’d make one, then spend 2 years missing out.

Coastal won it all in 2016 and is already back to hosting after not making it in the following year. Meanwhile, we’re 4 years removed from #1 in the country, 3 years removed from last super regional, 2 years removed from last time hosting, and now out in back to back years while having the one of the most putrid offenses in the country and a pitching staff that had too much pressure put on them.

Is a change going to be made? Honestly, I don’t think history points to a change being made. When has Tony ever fired a coach? They’ve always left for another job or left baseball altogether.

.......Just looking back on G-5 football through the years with the rise and fall....N Tex, Houston, smu, TCU, Memphis, Tulsa, miss south, Tulane, ECU, UAB, ltur, Troy, and yes the Cajuns.....sure you could add more, but some huge ups and downs!!!l

[Cajun90]

It’s cool man. You’re loyal to Robe. I have a loyalty to him as well. That is why I don’t think he should be fired or that even being discussed. The question needs to be asked though. Take his name out of the equation and answer this question.

If you had the facilities we do, if you were coming off of the consensus #1 ranking 2 years ago, if you were watching a peer (coastal) do big things in a smaller conference and now same conference, all while losing 7 straight series to start a season, produce one of the weakest offenses in the country and get bounced from the conference tourney that we hosted by 19 runs in two games, would you be telling any other coach that he needs to mentor his kids more or would you be telling him to coach them up and win?

You are now deflecting from your original statement.....

"Does Coach Robe want to be a baseball coach or a life coach?"

You need to comprehend that is where I take issue with you. Please feel free to remove his name and I'll still have the same opinion. I think great "sports" coaches tend to be great "life" coaches. I completely disagree with the idea that you and others are professing in these two traits being incongruous to one another.

I take no issue with the fact that we haven't been a very good team over the prior two years and improvement needs to happen. There are numerous reasons for our slide into mediocrity, in my opinion, but being a "life coach" isn't one of them. I hope being a "life coach" is near the top of the list for every coach Maggard hires moving forward because I think that is critical to winning. Little girls and boys don't win NCAA championships.... mentally and physically tough men and women do.

[cajun_lannister]

You are now deflecting from your original statement.....

"Does Coach Robe want to be a baseball coach or a life coach?"

You need to comprehend that is where I take issue with you. Please feel free to remove his name and I'll still have the same opinion. I think great "sports" coaches tend to be great "life" coaches. I completely disagree with the idea that you and others are professing in these two traits being incongruous to one another.

I take no issue with the fact that we haven't been a very good team over the prior two years and improvement needs to happen. There are numerous reasons for our slide into mediocrity, in my opinion, but being a "life coach" isn't one of them. I hope being a "life coach" is near the top of the list for every coach Maggard hires moving forward because I think that is critical to winning. Little girls and boys don't win NCAA championships.... mentally and physically tough men and women do.

But we have not been mentality tough for 3 years

[Cajun90]

Yes he’s won, but hasn’t won consistently. Outside of the stretch from 2013-2016, he’s never made postaseason more than 2 years in a row. We’d make one, then spend 2 years missing out.

Two things - First you seem to have forgotten about a four year run from 97-2000. Second is in perspective. In his 23 years at the helm the Cajuns have made the tournament sixteen teams and have never missed the tournament for more than two consecutive years. That is a feat that only a handful of coaches outside of the SEC/PAC/BIG/ACC have been able to accomplish and many teams within those top four leagues would love to have that type of success.

I get that this was a down year by our standards but let's not start putting up broad brushstrokes and using a false narrative to paint an untrue picture.