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    Quote Originally Posted by Dad04 View Post
    Which players has he stolen from P5 schools. I hang up an listen. anybody can recruit scrubs that have no chance of being good college players.
    Just off of the top of my head Nick Lee, Hogan Harris, Dylan Poncho, Handsome Monica, and Todd Lott I am pretty confident had garnered P5 interest and MLB interest. Edit, Kennon Fontenot is another. I think he was a JT recruit. Could be wrong on that one.

    I'm sure CajunT can pull some names for you.

    I'm just telling you what the perception of the staff is of JT's recruiting abilities. They don't necessarily believe in his coaching ability, but said he is great at closing on recruits. I think someone has to come in and have control over who is targeted though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babysitter View Post
    Bab- Baseball Ops
    Talbot - Recruiting Coordinator
    X - Hitting Coach
    Freeman - Pitching Coach

    Not sure if this will work. That’s my guess. Most hitting coaches are also recruiting coordinators. It will either work or turn in to a major @&$T storm. I think it’s a huge gamble going down that road.
    it usually is a gamble no matter what you do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dad04 View Post
    WRONG and WRONG. Nobody goes to high school games to seriously recruit. they go to https://www.perfectgame.org/, get lists, follow kids that express interest in the school and watch them against the best high school pitching talent (90's) in the country. This is very, very basic stuff you aren't aware of.
    I'm not the recruiting coordinator for one and you brought up 84 mph high school cookies not me. While playing at this perfect game, are they not still in high school? Are you saying our coaches don't know where to go to recruit? Interesting you bring up perfect game...go look at the accolades all these kids have from perfect game...I'm sure you will find some way to discredit their accolades against the best high school pitching talent in the country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazycajun View Post
    I'm not the recruiting coordinator for one and you brought up 84 mph high school cookies not me. While playing at this perfect game, are they not still in high school? Are you saying our coaches don't know where to go to recruit? Interesting you bring up perfect game...go look at the accolades all these kids have from perfect game...I'm sure you will find some way to discredit their accolades against the best high school pitching talent in the country.
    You brought up high school, not me.

    Quote Originally Posted by crazycajun View Post
    They didn’t suck at it in high school, they don’t suck at it in the summer. A lot of guys are moving on this year and changes will be made and we will see how it plays out. Did all Trahan’s recruit suck in 2012? A lot of Those same guys deggs coached in 2013-14?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rougarou View Post
    Just off of the top of my head Nick Lee, Hogan Harris, Dylan Poncho, Handsome Monica, and Todd Lott I am pretty confident had garnered P5 interest and MLB interest. Edit, Kennon Fontenot is another. I think he was a JT recruit. Could be wrong on that one.

    I'm sure CajunT can pull some names for you.

    I'm just telling you what the perception of the staff is of JT's recruiting abilities. They don't necessarily believe in his coaching ability, but said he is great at closing on recruits. I think someone has to come in and have control over who is targeted though.
    They signed in fall 2015 a few months after JT got here. Recruiting started YEARS before that. All he did was mail out the paper work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dad04 View Post
    You brought up high school, not me.
    Age, time frame..they were attending high school when being recruited.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazycajun View Post
    Age, time frame..they were attending high school when being recruited.
    Everybody is in high school when recruited. Precious little recruiting goes on there. The big exception is the powerhouse high school programs. In this area STM, Teurlings, Barbe, etc., get local college coaches to watch. Even then the number of games college coaches can see are few, due to schedule conflicts. 90% of kids are found and followed via PG lists and events....where pitchers routinely throw 90+.

    Look at the CWS team rosters. They are littered with out of state kids, thanks to PG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dad04 View Post
    They signed in fall 2015 three months after JT got here. Recruiting started YEARS before that. All he did was mail out the paper work.
    JT was hired in the Summer/Fall of 2014.

    JT recruited Nick Lee, Hogan Harris, Dylon Poncho, and Todd Lott in addition to having a hand in Handsome Monica. At least that is what Robe told the DA.

    Other mentions are Johnny Rizer who plays for TCU and Steven Sensley.

    I understand recruiting starts early, but I mentioned him being a good CLOSER. He signed those guys.

    JT was also known for being a great recruiter for Texas A&M. He got them at least one Top 10 ranked class (I think 6).

    Please point me to the proof that all he did was mail out the paperwork to sign those guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dad04 View Post
    Everybody is in high school when recruited. Precious little recruiting goes on there. The big exception is the powerhouse high school programs. In this area STM, Teurlings, Barbe, etc., get local college coaches to watch. 90% of kids are found and followed via PG lists and events.

    Look at the CWS team rosters. They are littered with out of state kids, thanks to PG.
    And our squad gets a lot of studs off all those powerhouses and perfect game studs. I personally am willing to give these kids a chance with a different approach before i say 4 years worth of guys suck. We don’t really have a choice either..this isn’t mlb free agency.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazycajun View Post
    And our squad gets a lot of studs off all those powerhouses and perfect game studs. I personally am willing to give these kids a chance with a different approach before i say 4 years worth of guys suck. We don't really have a choice either..this isn't mlb free agency.
    I was told 2nd hand from someone in the dugout, talent is simply not there. We have seen a combination of mediocre coaching working with mediocre talent. New coaching will help. After that, turning over the roster over time will help. There is no quick fix for a four year slide to hell.

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