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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajunsmike View Post
    Personally I think as long as they consistently finish in the top third of the league he will keep his job and fans will have to learn to live with that.
    It’s one thing to finish in the top third in the league. But if we go another five years without a tournament appearance, the fans will live with it by not showing up.

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    Here are the last 5 years. As I said earlier, the numbers look better, but there are still areas that need much improvement, especially as regards the record vs RPI 1-200 and the scheduling imbalance towards weaker teams. Over 45% of our games in the last 5 years were vs teams with RPI of 201+. Some of that we can't control, but we must attempt to not play any teams 201+ out of conference.

    Conference Standing: 3, 4, 4, T6, 1: Mean of 3.6

    Road Record vs
    RPI 1-100: 2-14
    RPI 101-200: 14-16
    RPI 201+: 21-9
    Overall: 37-39

    Neutral Site Record vs
    RPI 1-100: 1-4
    RPI 101-200: 5-2
    RPI 201+: 5-1
    Overall: 11-7

    Home Record vs
    RPI 1-100: 4-4
    RPI 101-200: 12-8
    RPI 201+: 33-2
    Overall: 49-14

    Overall Record vs
    RPI 1-100: 7-22
    RPI 101-200: 31-26
    RPI 201+: 59-12
    Overall: 97-60

    Stats do not include non Division 1 games.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ULvictory View Post
    It’s one thing to finish in the top third in the league. But if we go another five years without a tournament appearance, the fans will live with it by not showing up.
    If that turns out to be the case then the administration will take that into consideration in decisions. Maybe I was a little too generous in my belief about top third finishes not resulting in things changing. However regular season championships without a tournament championship will not result in anything new.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajunsmike View Post
    Don’t think he is getting an extension now. That will likely be discussed after next season. Unfortunate the health situation prevented us from being at our best at tournament time. That tells me our depth was not nearly as strong as we originally believed. More talent must be brought in to progress. Personally I think as long as they consistently finish in the top third of the league he will keep his job and fans will have to learn to live with that.
    Top third is convenient. I’d prefer 4th place be what it is, out the running.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunEXPRESS View Post
    Top third is convenient. I’d prefer 4th place be what it is, out the running.
    That may be your criteria. My post was meant to indicate what I think is the administration view. I am just guessing on this as I don’t know what Dr. Maggard finds acceptable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajunsmike View Post
    Don’t think he is getting an extension now. That will likely be discussed after next season. Unfortunate the health situation prevented us from being at our best at tournament time. That tells me our depth was not nearly as strong as we originally believed. More talent must be brought in to progress. Personally I think as long as they consistently finish in the top third of the league he will keep his job and fans will have to learn to live with that.
    Mike,
    I respect your opinion, but must take issue. The talent depth may have been an issue, but in my opinion, that type of issue should be overcome by coaching, and I have not seen that since Marlin has been here. Bringing more talent in is surely needed, but according to a certain broadcaster, THIS was the best UL team he has seen, which I call BS on. I can't speak for all fans, but I can tell you that his success this year has earned him only one more year in my book. If he does not make the NCAA tournament next year and does not win some of those games against bigger schools that he has not been able to do up to this point, then I promise you I will not "learn to live with top third" in what is possibly the worst conference in the country. If he is retained after next year without meeting the two conditions that I laid out, I will not attend another game until we have a new coach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunProud View Post
    Mike,
    I respect your opinion, but must take issue. The talent depth may have been an issue, but in my opinion, that type of issue should be overcome by coaching, and I have not seen that since Marlin has been here. Bringing more talent in is surely needed, but according to a certain broadcaster, THIS was the best UL team he has seen, which I call BS on. I can't speak for all fans, but I can tell you that his success this year has earned him only one more year in my book. If he does not make the NCAA tournament next year and does not win some of those games against bigger schools that he has not been able to do up to this point, then I promise you I will not "learn to live with top third" in what is possibly the worst conference in the country. If he is retained after next year without meeting the two conditions that I laid out, I will not attend another game until we have a new coach.
    If that happens and enough people follow your example, the administration will take note. As I said, I don’t know what the administration finds acceptable. I was just giving my opinion of their view. Factually the SBC is nowhere near the worst conference in the nation. In 2017, the league was 13th out of 32. I am not sure what the 2018 Numbers are but I recall it being in the low 20’s recently. That means there are approximately 10 leagues below the SBC. Granted the league took a step back this year and hopefully thAt changes next year

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    Mike , if you’re consistently a one bid league, you’re among the worst. At least by NCAA standards. We weren’t the only conference with outstanding regular season wins who couldn’t get a sniff at an at large. So let’s not quibble about being in the worst league. We’re consistent a one bid league making us not relevant.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunEXPRESS View Post
    Mike , if you’re consistently a one bid league, you’re among the worst. At least by NCAA standards. We weren’t the only conference with outstanding regular season wins who couldn’t get a sniff at an at large. So let’s not quibble about being in the worst league. We’re consistent a one bid league making us not relevant.
    Agree we are not relevant as a one bid league. That is true for over 20 conferences however. I was just pointing out the league is not the worst in the nation according to the numbers despite some believing it is. You may call it quibbling but I call it trying to be accurate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VObserver View Post
    My agenda is completely transparent; I want us to have a quality basketball program; not a smoke and mirrors imitation of quality.

    27 wins this year: 0 vs top 100 RPI, 10 vs RPI 101-200, 15 vs RPI of 201+ and 2 non- D1.

    To his credit, Marlin coached Louisiana to a winning record vs RPI 101-200; something he had accomplished only once before in his tenure here.

    54-86 vs top 200 RPI over the last 8 years at UL.

    You may call that good basketball. I call it institutionalized mediocrity.
    Well...and I’d argue, much to the hate of this board, our lack of wins over Top 100 RPI is why we didn’t host the NIT game.

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    I call it accurate. If you’re not relevant but once every 25 years you’re awful. It’s like dating a 3 and being glad you’re not dating a one. Neither is worth being okay with. But that’s just me.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajunrunner View Post
    Well...and I’d argue, much to the hate of this board, our lack of wins over Top 100 RPI is why we didn’t host the NIT game.
    Exactly.

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