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    Quote Originally Posted by VObserver View Post
    It has been up and down. No real trend to see. The two best were this year and year 5. I will post them in a bit.
    I got it. Here is the RPI history

    Lee (last two years
    2009 266
    2010 246

    Marlin:
    2011 215
    2012 197
    2013 225
    2014 85
    2015 124
    2016 145
    2017 115
    2018 69

    CLEARY there’s a downward trend. CLEARLY this program is getting better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunRebel View Post
    I got it. Here is the RPI history

    Lee (last two years
    2009 266
    2010 246

    Marlin:
    2011 215
    2012 197
    2013 225
    2014 85
    2015 124
    2016 145
    2017 115
    2018 69

    CLEARY there’s a downward trend. CLEARLY this program is getting better.
    Well......, as we see now, good RPI numbers mean less and less to the Committee. They know that you can artificially lower your RPI score by padding your schedule with easy wins. Sound familiar?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunRebel View Post
    I got it. Here is the RPI history

    Lee (last two years
    2009 266
    2010 246

    Marlin:
    2011 215
    2012 197
    2013 225
    2014 85
    2015 124
    2016 145
    2017 115
    2018 69

    CLEARY there's a downward trend. CLEARLY this program is getting better.
    CLEARLY the last 3 years have been much better, RPI -wise, than the first 3 years. But I see more of an up & down line the past 4-6 years than a true trend. Just my opinion.

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    Another thing about our RPI numbers. A 107 5-year average is certainly acceptable for scheduling by other schools. The problem is the opponents' opponents ratings factoring into the Committee selection. We can't do much about the SBC schedule we have, but we can certainly schedule a lot better in non-conference to boost these numbers in our favor.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunRebel View Post
    I got it. Here is the RPI history

    Lee (last two years
    2009 266
    2010 246

    Marlin:
    2011 215
    2012 197
    2013 225
    2014 85
    2015 124
    2016 145
    2017 115
    2018 69

    CLEARY there’s a downward trend. CLEARLY this program is getting better.
    That 5 year average of 108 is not bad.

    Get rid of the 2 non D1 games and replace them with teams who have a good 3 year rpi average. That is what we can do but for us to see any substantial change, the conference has to step there scheduling up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmv90 View Post
    mike Murphy was on 1037 this morning. He specifically stated no power 6 conference team will come here. They have tried them all. They laugh at it when we call.
    Why? Is it because we average 4K fans a game at home? Is it because we’re in the Belt? Is it because we have a history of NCAA violations and they don’t want to associate with us? Is it because they’re scared to lose? (I’m sure that’s not it)

    You’re telling me a school like Houston wouldn’t be interested in a 2 for 1? I just do not believe that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunRebel View Post
    I got it. Here is the RPI history

    Lee (last two years
    2009 266
    2010 246

    Marlin:
    2011 215
    2012 197
    2013 225
    2014 85
    2015 124
    2016 145
    2017 115
    2018 69

    CLEARY there’s a downward trend. CLEARLY this program is getting better.
    Anyone can cherry pick a stat to support their argument. RPI means nothing, as A&M proved last night. It’s a flawed metric that needs to be changed. Quality wins are all that matter at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManAboutTown View Post
    Anyone can cherry pick a stat to support their argument. RPI means nothing, as A&M proved last night. It’s a flawed metric that needs to be changed. Quality wins are all that matter at this point.
    How can you bring up cherry picking in one breath but then immediately poo poo a comprehensive stat like the RPI and cherry pick a stat like quality wins.

    RPI, BPI, ELO, Massey, Sagrin, etc. are all comprehensive statistical accounts of how good your team is. They are the opposite of cherry picking.

    Our games against Clemson and Ole Miss don’t make a difference if we don’t take care of all the other games on the schedule.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunRebel View Post
    How can you bring up cherry picking in one breath but then immediately poo poo a comprehensive stat like the RPI and cherry pick a stat like quality wins.

    RPI, BPI, ELO, Massey, Sagrin, etc. are all comprehensive statistical accounts of how good your team is. They are the opposite of cherry picking.

    Our games against Clemson and Ole Miss don’t make a difference if we don’t take care of all the other games on the schedule.
    That RPI got us a road trip NIT game and an early spring break.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaginFan2 View Post
    CLEARLY the last 3 years have been much better, RPI -wise, than the first 3 years. But I see more of an up & down line the past 4-6 years than a true trend. Just my opinion.
    Keep in mind that D1 college basketball has something like 340 teams. The pool of teams is so huge that there are always going to be big fluctuations. In college football the #90 team is much better than the #120 team. In college basketball when the #90 and #120 play its close to a tossup.

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