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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunNation View Post
    Is winning the regular season SBC title and not going to the Tourney and no major wins acceptable?

    If yes, for how long? OR, will he get extensions forever and we'll just have to live with it?
    Don’t think he is getting an extension now. That will likely be discussed after next season. Unfortunate the health situation prevented us from being at our best at tournament time. That tells me our depth was not nearly as strong as we originally believed. More talent must be brought in to progress. Personally I think as long as they consistently finish in the top third of the league he will keep his job and fans will have to learn to live with that.

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    Judge the overall trajectory not the tragicomical over all.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajunsmike View Post
    Personally I think as long as they consistently finish in the top third of the league he will keep his job and fans will have to learn to live with that.
    It’s one thing to finish in the top third in the league. But if we go another five years without a tournament appearance, the fans will live with it by not showing up.

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    Here are the last 5 years. As I said earlier, the numbers look better, but there are still areas that need much improvement, especially as regards the record vs RPI 1-200 and the scheduling imbalance towards weaker teams. Over 45% of our games in the last 5 years were vs teams with RPI of 201+. Some of that we can't control, but we must attempt to not play any teams 201+ out of conference.

    Conference Standing: 3, 4, 4, T6, 1: Mean of 3.6

    Road Record vs
    RPI 1-100: 2-14
    RPI 101-200: 14-16
    RPI 201+: 21-9
    Overall: 37-39

    Neutral Site Record vs
    RPI 1-100: 1-4
    RPI 101-200: 5-2
    RPI 201+: 5-1
    Overall: 11-7

    Home Record vs
    RPI 1-100: 4-4
    RPI 101-200: 12-8
    RPI 201+: 33-2
    Overall: 49-14

    Overall Record vs
    RPI 1-100: 7-22
    RPI 101-200: 31-26
    RPI 201+: 59-12
    Overall: 97-60

    Stats do not include non Division 1 games.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ULvictory View Post
    It’s one thing to finish in the top third in the league. But if we go another five years without a tournament appearance, the fans will live with it by not showing up.
    If that turns out to be the case then the administration will take that into consideration in decisions. Maybe I was a little too generous in my belief about top third finishes not resulting in things changing. However regular season championships without a tournament championship will not result in anything new.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajunsmike View Post
    Don’t think he is getting an extension now. That will likely be discussed after next season. Unfortunate the health situation prevented us from being at our best at tournament time. That tells me our depth was not nearly as strong as we originally believed. More talent must be brought in to progress. Personally I think as long as they consistently finish in the top third of the league he will keep his job and fans will have to learn to live with that.
    Top third is convenient. I’d prefer 4th place be what it is, out the running.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunEXPRESS View Post
    Top third is convenient. I’d prefer 4th place be what it is, out the running.
    That may be your criteria. My post was meant to indicate what I think is the administration view. I am just guessing on this as I don’t know what Dr. Maggard finds acceptable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajunsmike View Post
    Don’t think he is getting an extension now. That will likely be discussed after next season. Unfortunate the health situation prevented us from being at our best at tournament time. That tells me our depth was not nearly as strong as we originally believed. More talent must be brought in to progress. Personally I think as long as they consistently finish in the top third of the league he will keep his job and fans will have to learn to live with that.
    Mike,
    I respect your opinion, but must take issue. The talent depth may have been an issue, but in my opinion, that type of issue should be overcome by coaching, and I have not seen that since Marlin has been here. Bringing more talent in is surely needed, but according to a certain broadcaster, THIS was the best UL team he has seen, which I call BS on. I can't speak for all fans, but I can tell you that his success this year has earned him only one more year in my book. If he does not make the NCAA tournament next year and does not win some of those games against bigger schools that he has not been able to do up to this point, then I promise you I will not "learn to live with top third" in what is possibly the worst conference in the country. If he is retained after next year without meeting the two conditions that I laid out, I will not attend another game until we have a new coach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunProud View Post
    Mike,
    I respect your opinion, but must take issue. The talent depth may have been an issue, but in my opinion, that type of issue should be overcome by coaching, and I have not seen that since Marlin has been here. Bringing more talent in is surely needed, but according to a certain broadcaster, THIS was the best UL team he has seen, which I call BS on. I can't speak for all fans, but I can tell you that his success this year has earned him only one more year in my book. If he does not make the NCAA tournament next year and does not win some of those games against bigger schools that he has not been able to do up to this point, then I promise you I will not "learn to live with top third" in what is possibly the worst conference in the country. If he is retained after next year without meeting the two conditions that I laid out, I will not attend another game until we have a new coach.
    If that happens and enough people follow your example, the administration will take note. As I said, I don’t know what the administration finds acceptable. I was just giving my opinion of their view. Factually the SBC is nowhere near the worst conference in the nation. In 2017, the league was 13th out of 32. I am not sure what the 2018 Numbers are but I recall it being in the low 20’s recently. That means there are approximately 10 leagues below the SBC. Granted the league took a step back this year and hopefully thAt changes next year

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    Mike , if you’re consistently a one bid league, you’re among the worst. At least by NCAA standards. We weren’t the only conference with outstanding regular season wins who couldn’t get a sniff at an at large. So let’s not quibble about being in the worst league. We’re consistent a one bid league making us not relevant.


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