Stop Making Excuses

[VObserver]

NCAA is a joke,always has been keeping the mid major down .
Win the Sun Belt Tourney so they can’t keep u down . How many times have we won regular season championship in Marlin’s reign as head coach ? How many times tournament champ ? Runner up in regular season ? Runner up in tournament ?

Our conference finishes (in order) under Marlin: Tied 2nd, 4th, 8th, 3, 4, 4, Tied 6th, 1st.

The year we were 3rd, we won the tournament.

[tank]

MEDIOCRITY. OVERPAID.
GRADUATION RATE ANY BETTER?

[CajunAmos]

MEDIOCRITY. OVERPAID.
GRADUATION RATE ANY BETTER?

Actually the graduation rate is better.

[tank]

Good to know

[IberiaCajun]

I have no problem with his argument that there shouldn't be any discussion of firing him. The problem I do have is he talks about the last 5 seasons, completely dismissing the first three seasons. So its also fair to say that we have 1 Conference Championship, 1 NCAA Tournament Bid and 1 NIT Bid in 8 seasons. That is the entirety of his tenure.

He also points out Marlin won the first SBC Championship ever and that is true to my knowledge. Coach Evans and Coach Lee did not win any outright season championships. But if it comes down to 3 games in March, do those season championships mean as much as NCAA bids? I can tell you it didn't when Coach Evans was here, most people hated losing to Western Kentucky or Middle Tennessee, but the NCAA Tournament bids were fun.

So, while I agree with most of his comments, the improvement of the UL MBB over the last 5 years doesn't change my question, what should be fans reasonable expectation for NCAA appearances in years? Yes, we have 1 in the last 5 seasons.

One in the last 8 seasons.

[VObserver]

I have no problem with his argument that there shouldn't be any discussion of firing him. The problem I do have is he talks about the last 5 seasons, completely dismissing the first three seasons. So its also fair to say that we have 1 Conference Championship, 1 NCAA Tournament Bid and 1 NIT Bid in 8 seasons. That is the entirety of his tenure.

He also points out Marlin won the first SBC Championship ever and that is true to my knowledge. Coach Evans and Coach Lee did not win any outright season championships. But if it comes down to 3 games in March, do those season championships mean as much as NCAA bids? I can tell you it didn't when Coach Evans was here, most people hated losing to Western Kentucky or Middle Tennessee, but the NCAA Tournament bids were fun.

So, while I agree with most of his comments, the improvement of the UL MBB over the last 5 years doesn't change my question, what should be fans reasonable expectation for NCAA appearances in years? Yes, we have 1 in the last 5 seasons.

We have not really improved over the last 5 years. We have been third, fourth, fourth, sixth and first in a conference that has no MTSU and no WKU. Our record looks a little better, but any way you slice it we are 54-85 against the top 200 RPI over the last 8 years, with only 2 years in that span being above .500 against that level of competition.

[tank]

PAY RAISE and EXTENSION ON THE WAY .

[CajunJeaux]

NM...don’t wanna derail positive thread...

[Cajunsmike]

Com'on... His job is not on the line. School record wins. Seriously? Enough of this talk.

And being competitive will not make me happy... I will only be satisfied with a win. Prayerfully, Gant will be ready to go and Stove can provide some good minutes as well...

Yes, talk of a coaching change is basically meaningless at this stage other than letting people voice their opinion (always value in that). It will not happen even if we get blown out Wednesday. Once again Dr. Maggard thinks very highly of Coach Marlin and his is the opinion that counts. Now were a majority of the fan base to think otherwise things could change. However, people who want a change (don't deny there are some) are a definite minority at this point. Focus on the team as the coach is not in question and likely won't be for some time.

[VObserver]

Yes, talk of a coaching change is basically meaningless at this stage other than letting people voice their opinion (always value in that). It will not happen even if we get blown out Wednesday. Once again Dr. Maggard thinks very highly of Coach Marlin and his is the opinion that counts. Now were a majority of the fan base to think otherwise things could change. However, people who want a change (don't deny there are some) are a definite minority at this point. Focus on the team as the coach is not in question and likely won't be for some time.

Mike, I think you might be surprised at the number of people who are not satisfied with the direction our program has taken. Many people want us to elevate the level of competition we play to make our program relevant on a larger stage. When Marlin has done this, the results have been less than spectacular. We are paying him a significant amount more than any other coach in this conference and he has not delivered on a level commensurate with his compensation.

I agree his job is in no danger this year, but I do think the pressure is on for him to improve both scheduling and results.

[tank]

Don’t need to fire him yet ,just don’t give an extension or pay raise .

[Cajunsmike]

PAY RAISE and EXTENSION ON THE WAY .

Don't know about raise (doubt it). However many believe his current contract calls for an automatic extension with either a regular season or conference tournament championship. That goes back to his original contract negotiated by David Walker. Therefore he is likely to be here three more years.