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    Quote Originally Posted by cajundiehard View Post
    Com'on... His job is not on the line. School record wins. Seriously? Enough of this talk.
    ...and this view is precisely why he schedules like he does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunNation View Post
    ...and this view is precisely why he schedules like he does.



    Moon being Moon

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajun_lannister View Post



    Moon being Moon
    The last 5 years have been good, hopefully they will excel what was accomplished over the last 5 years. I don't see how they can't pull some some increasingly better recruits to go to the next level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajun_lannister View Post



    Moon being Moon
    I have no problem with his argument that there shouldn't be any discussion of firing him. The problem I do have is he talks about the last 5 seasons, completely dismissing the first three seasons. So its also fair to say that we have 1 Conference Championship, 1 NCAA Tournament Bid and 1 NIT Bid in 8 seasons. That is the entirety of his tenure.

    He also points out Marlin won the first SBC Championship ever and that is true to my knowledge. Coach Evans and Coach Lee did not win any outright season championships. But if it comes down to 3 games in March, do those season championships mean as much as NCAA bids? I can tell you it didn't when Coach Evans was here, most people hated losing to Western Kentucky or Middle Tennessee, but the NCAA Tournament bids were fun.

    So, while I agree with most of his comments, the improvement of the UL MBB over the last 5 years doesn't change my question, what should be fans reasonable expectation for NCAA appearances in years? Yes, we have 1 in the last 5 seasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunT View Post
    I have no problem with his argument that there shouldn't be any discussion of firing him. The problem I do have is he talks about the last 5 seasons, completely dismissing the first three seasons. So its also fair to say that we have 1 Conference Championship, 1 NCAA Tournament Bid and 1 NIT Bid in 8 seasons. That is the entirety of his tenure.

    He also points out Marlin won the first SBC Championship ever and that is true to my knowledge. Coach Evans and Coach Lee did not win any outright season championships. But if it comes down to 3 games in March, do those season championships mean as much as NCAA bids? I can tell you it didn't when Coach Evans was here, most people hated losing to Western Kentucky or Middle Tennessee, but the NCAA Tournament bids were fun.

    So, while I agree with most of his comments, the improvement of the UL MBB over the last 5 years doesn't change my question, what should be fans reasonable expectation for NCAA appearances in years? Yes, we have 1 in the last 5 seasons.
    What is Marlin's signature win these past 8 years .. GSU / Houston 2014?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunT View Post
    I have no problem with his argument that there shouldn't be any discussion of firing him. The problem I do have is he talks about the last 5 seasons, completely dismissing the first three seasons. So its also fair to say that we have 1 Conference Championship, 1 NCAA Tournament Bid and 1 NIT Bid in 8 seasons. That is the entirety of his tenure.

    He also points out Marlin won the first SBC Championship ever and that is true to my knowledge. Coach Evans and Coach Lee did not win any outright season championships. But if it comes down to 3 games in March, do those season championships mean as much as NCAA bids? I can tell you it didn't when Coach Evans was here, most people hated losing to Western Kentucky or Middle Tennessee, but the NCAA Tournament bids were fun.

    So, while I agree with most of his comments, the improvement of the UL MBB over the last 5 years doesn't change my question, what should be fans reasonable expectation for NCAA appearances in years? Yes, we have 1 in the last 5 seasons.
    He's also wrong to an extent when he says that he averaged 22 wins a season over the last 5. If the statement is 22 wins overall, that is one thing, but if the statement is 22 Div I wins, then the statement is wrong. According to the schedules, Marlin has won 112 games over the last 5 seasons, but if you back out the 12 non Div. I wins, he only has 100 wins, which averages out to 20 wins. Don't get me wrong, 20 wins is nice, but when you look at the fact that a vast majority of those wins are against what is arguably the worst conference in the country, then I'm not very impressed, especially when you see that against the "Big Boys", he routinely gets skull drug. If we go back and take out all of the non Div. I wins over his 8 years, he is not much over .500 at UL. I know the wins against non Div. I teams "count" according to the NCAA, but not in my book, and they shouldn't count to other UL alum/fans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunT View Post
    He also points out Marlin won the first SBC Championship ever and that is true to my knowledge. Coach Evans and Coach Lee did not win any outright season championships. But if it comes down to 3 games in March, do those season championships mean as much as NCAA bids? I can tell you it didn't when Coach Evans was here, most people hated losing to Western Kentucky or Middle Tennessee, but the NCAA Tournament bids were fun.
    My memory isn't great.. but wasn't Moon saying all that matters in making it to the NCAA some 3 or 4 years ago? Wasn't he saying regular season is meaningless, but NCAA appearance trumps all?

    Maybe i'm confusing him with a caller....

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    Marlin Rocks!

    Y'all live with it.

    ps Will Jay give RP credit for my post?


  9. #21

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    Even voice of the Cajuns is happy with mediocrity.


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    Quote Originally Posted by tank View Post
    Even voice of the Cajuns is happy with mediocrity.
    Actually Jay is snapping necks on the radio, and good on him. Good on Topham too.

    He’s basically agreed with everything I posted here concerning the farce that is the NCAA/NIT.

  11. #23

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManAboutTown View Post
    Actually Jay is snapping necks on the radio, and good on him. Good on Topham too.

    He's basically agreed with everything I posted here concerning the farce that is the NCAA/NIT.
    MAT, he may be whining about the NCAA, but I guarantee you he is not holding Marlin accountable for the crappy scheduling over the last 8 years, or for the lack of quality wins under Marlin's watch. Jay is perfectly happy being 54-85 (26-54 in road and neutral site games) against the top 200 RPI during Marlin's tenure.

    Marlin is great beating up on the dregs of Division 1 basketball, but is mediocre at best against teams with any semblance of a pulse.

    Like it or not, that record against that competition is a huge part of the reason we get no respect. MTSU and St. Mary's have a legitimate gripe; we do not.

  12. #24

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    NCAA is a joke,always has been keeping the mid major down .
    Win the Sun Belt Tourney so they can’t keep u down . How many times have we won regular season championship in Marlin’s reign as head coach ? How many times tournament champ ? Runner up in regular season ? Runner up in tournament ?


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