2019 Mississippi River

[CharlieK]

Are there any books on this?

https://www.amazon.com/Beyond-Contro...gateway&sr=8-1

[HelmutVII]

we should probably beef up security around there...

I would suspect that anybody that is not supposed to be there would automatically arouse suspicion. Just sayin.

[Bandwagon King]

LOL... yeah but there are easier targets. It would be extremely difficult for someone to destroy the various structures.... mother nature on the other hand might not have as difficult a time.

The complete controls structure there consist of the main Old River Control Structure, Auxiliary Old River Control Structure, Power Plant, and the Spillway. They wouldn't all have to fail in order for the river to change course but the point is that there is more to the system than just a single failure point. Thank goodness.

I can see what this thread has deteriorated into without my input. I knew there would be some kind of a thread on this subject which would have derailed & gone severely off course into la la land. So now, in an attempt to save this once interesting piece of reading may I take the chance to interject some real critiquing for a very obvious reason. WHY in the hell did they wait until now to sink the barge in Bayou Shane & just now start to open the gates in Morganza?

This obvious lack of "interest" this time around by the Corps of Engineers puts all & I mean ALL of south Central Louisiana at risk for major flooding later this year. There's nothing funny about it & could help lead to a major catastrophic flood event in our region, all because someone took the viewpoint that oh, we've got this. Nothing's gonna happen. Whereas in 2011 the viewpoint was to look at the worst case possibility & deal with it in that manner. Thereby the Corps acted in such a way as to overreact & completely prevent a major flood event to the point it became a non event. This time the exact opposite appears to be the case. It's my opinion & i'm absolutely entitled to it & to ask the questions. And if one of the worse cases occurs, there will be a hell of a lot more people asking these same exact questions.

[HelmutVII]

Opening of the spillway closed to public.

https://kpel965.com/officials-morgan...to-the-public/

Only properly credentialed corps of engineers personnel and credentialed press will be allowed.

[CajunNation]

After watching that video, if I lived in the Basin area all the way to NOLA, I would begin the process of relocating now. I sure as heck would not allow any of my loved ones to build or buy a house in this area either.

[Cajunrunner]

I can see what this thread has deteriorated into without my input. I knew there would be some kind of a thread on this subject which would have derailed & gone severely off course into la la land. So now, in an attempt to save this once interesting piece of reading may I take the chance to interject some real critiquing for a very obvious reason. WHY in the hell did they wait until now to sink the barge in Bayou Shane & just now start to open the gates in Morganza?

This obvious lack of "interest" this time around by the Corps of Engineers puts all & I mean ALL of south Central Louisiana at risk for major flooding later this year. There's nothing funny about it & could help lead to a major catastrophic flood event in our region, all because someone took the viewpoint that oh, we've got this. Nothing's gonna happen. Whereas in 2011 the viewpoint was to look at the worst case possibility & deal with it in that manner. Thereby the Corps acted in such a way as to overreact & completely prevent a major flood event to the point it became a non event. This time the exact opposite appears to be the case. It's my opinion & i'm absolutely entitled to it & to ask the questions. And if one of the worse cases occurs, there will be a hell of a lot more people asking these same exact questions.

I was curious if you’d chime in.

[ZoomZoom]

Yeah that isn't exactly how its gonna work. Instead we will all be paying massive taxes in order to build the desalination plants that will be needed.

Us, as in, the entire country. Multiple states would sue the COE due to loss commerce and failure on the government's part in their failed attempt to control nature. This would make Katrina look like chump change after its all said and done.

Not trying to hijack thread, BUT all the more reason to get 49 thru Lafayette. Straightest path is a straight line from 10/49 interchange to 90. The day is coming when there will be massive infrastructure work south of here. You want planning, there it is. Drop the outer loop and bike path dreams and get real.

[ZoomZoom]

Opening of the spillway closed to public.

https://kpel965.com/officials-morgan...to-the-public/

Only properly credentialed corps of engineers personnel and credentialed press will be allowed.

Therefore, they're closing LA 1? Interesting if so.

I keep running my mind back to March when I was up there and the fresh rocks up against the levee to the east of the gates on the north side. Obvious troubles back then.

[Cajunrunner]

Us, as in, the entire country. Multiple states would sue the COE due to loss commerce and failure on the government's part in their failed attempt to control nature. This would make Katrina look like chump change after its all said and done.

Not trying to hijack thread, BUT all the more reason to get 49 thru Lafayette. Straightest path is a straight line from 10/49 interchange to 90. The day is coming when there will be massive infrastructure work south of here. You want planning, there it is. Drop the outer loop and bike path dreams and get real.

But...but...we have to think about blighted properties and the harm a straight shot will do to all that economic growth happening on Evangeline Thruway!

[CajunJeaux]

Us, as in, the entire country. Multiple states would sue the COE due to loss commerce and failure on the government's part in their failed attempt to control nature. This would make Katrina look like chump change after its all said and done.

Not trying to hijack thread, BUT all the more reason to get 49 thru Lafayette. Straightest path is a straight line from 10/49 interchange to 90. The day is coming when there will be massive infrastructure work south of here. You want planning, there it is. Drop the outer loop and bike path dreams and get real.

If the unthinkable happens as in the professors video and sediment builds up North of Baton Rouge, basically damning the MS River...am I right in saying that no vessels would be able to cross under the Morgan City Bridge (because it could possibly be under water) and the MS River is useless being all of the remaining water South of the sediment damn would flow into the GoM...where do all of the shipping vessels go??...what a nightmare

[HelmutVII]

Therefore, they're closing LA 1? Interesting if so.

I keep running my mind back to March when I was up there and the fresh rocks up against the levee to the east of the gates on the north side. Obvious troubles back then.

The LA511 web site does not have LA Hwy 15 closed YET (LA HWY 15 is the road that goes over just about all the structures at Morganza) When I went in 2011 they did not allow any parking on most areas of La hwy 15 and you had to keep moving. Stopping was not allowed and there were plenty of State police and what looked like unmarked patrol cars in the area. While this is obviously a point of interest, I think the main cause of concern is a run away barge or a sea going vessel losing steering. If that happens and causes damage to a levee then is Katie Bar the door. Deep draft vessels can go only as far north on the Mississippi River as the Hwy 190 Bridge in Baton Rouge. I don't know what kind of restrictions the coast guard has on navigation on the Mississippi or if there are any plans to do so. Maybe somebody can provide that info

I drove through Morgan City yesterday and the river is very high there and has been for some time.

While not surprised, I was not expecting them to open Morganza right now. Water levels and flow rates at the ORCS are close to, but still less than when they opened in 2011. I suspect they are allowing for the anticipated crests that are a result of the continued rain in the upper Mississippi river basin. I did hear there is a flood event on the Arkansas river right now. I don't know if the Arkansas river drains to the Mississippi River or to the Red River. FYI the red river connects to the Atchafalaya and not the Mississippi River just to the west of the ORCS. The Atchafalaya is a distributary of the Red River And the Mississippi rivers. 100% of the flow of the Red river goes to the Atchafalaya. The Atchafalaya is no small river and carries a lot of water. I suspect that most of the silt carried by the Atchafalaya is from the Red River Basin.

[Ragin4U]