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    If it was a sprain, running on it is not the usual treatment. Tears in ligaments do not heal by repeated use.


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    Quote Originally Posted by talktomewillis View Post
    If you don't understand why a trainer wants to get the players up and moving and get the blood flowing in the leg as soon as possible, please do not begin to suggest the trainer doesn't know what he's doing.

    Not directed at anyone. General statement.
    I know it wasn't directed at me but you don't need LIVE pivot push action to "get the blood flowing in the leg as soon as possible." In fact "as soon as possible" is faster served in a controlled environment like the off court area he was brought to in the emergency.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zephyr View Post
    He hasn't had time to get stiff and let any swelling sink in. Good time to test it and hopefully work through some of that.
    I see we have the same coffee based philosophy source with a distinct tangent.

    I want him MaxWell, and you want him "good till the last drop."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragin4U View Post
    If it was a sprain, running on it is not the usual treatment. Tears in ligaments do not heal by repeated use.
    A sprain is not a tear. It is common to want to get the joint moving to hopefully eliminate swelling if the pain tolerance allows it. This is why you don't typically do ACL reconstructions right after the injury. They usually want to do some pre treatment to at least get the swelling down so that post treatment accelerates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
    I know it wasn't directed at me but you don't need LIVE pivot push action to "get the blood flowing in the leg as soon as possible." In fact "as soon as possible" is faster served in a controlled environment like the off court area he was brought to in the emergency.
    If the coaches and trainers wanted to get him on the court to test the pain tolerance before any swelling has settled in, I don't see anything wrong with that. A sprain is about the pain tolerance of the athlete and if he could be comfortable enough getting out there, so be it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zephyr View Post
    A sprain is not a tear. It is common to want to get the joint moving to hopefully eliminate swelling if the pain tolerance allows it. This is why you don't typically do ACL reconstructions right after the injury. They usually want to do some pre treatment to at least get the swelling down so that post treatment accelerates.
    Isn't a sprain small tears in the connective tissue? If the joint isn't rested, it can't heal.
    I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zephyr View Post
    A sprain is not a tear. It is common to want to get the joint moving to hopefully eliminate swelling if the pain tolerance allows it. This is why you don't typically do ACL reconstructions right after the injury. They usually want to do some pre treatment to at least get the swelling down so that post treatment accelerates.
    The unpredictability of live action with adrenal deception can't come close to the accuracy of treatment you get with controlled stress emulation testing in the locker room.

    And yes, adrenal deception with injuries is a thing. Or so I've been told.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragin4U View Post
    Isn't a sprain small tears in the connective tissue? If the joint isn't rested, it can't heal.
    I think.
    Sprains occur in the joint. Sprains are a stretching of the tendon or ligaments. It depends on the person and pain tolerance. Nowadays they like to have you moving as much as possible to drive blood to the area to help promote healing. The degree of the sprain to Stove would depend on how much activity he can handle. Obviously we don't have that info but he seems pretty mobile although I'm sure he's in some discomfort. Time will tell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
    The unpredictability of live action with adrenal deception can't come close to the accuracy of treatment you get with controlled stress emulation testing in the locker room.

    And yes, adrenal deception with injuries is a thing. Or so I've been told.
    Sigh

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    Quote Originally Posted by zephyr View Post
    Nowadays they like to have you moving as much as possible to drive blood to the area to help promote healing.
    Which is why a specific immediate off court exercise is superior to the unpredictability of on court events. (timeouts, free throws, standing around)

    No rational reason for putting back on the court that night.

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    I think our trainer could use some training. We need a trainer trainer.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
    Which is why a specific immediate off court exercise is superior to the unpredictability of on court events. (timeouts, free throws, standing around)

    No rational reason for putting back on the court that night.
    Whatever Turbine. Good day.

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