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    Found this online


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    WOW......Just WOW


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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunProud View Post
    The one we have now who can’t coach his way out of a wet paper bag would have $575k right now with a possibility of more. Just saying.

    I don’t know about everyone else on this board, but most of us who live in the real world don’t get paid if we don’t produce.
    I'm not saying another coach couldn't make more by winning a few games, I'm saying that any coach worth his salt (and any agent that has a brain) would never agree to a contract like that. Your candidate pool would basically consist of area high school coaches.

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    Its unfortunate that they don't list the assistant salaries.


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    Quote Originally Posted by charliek View Post
    I keep hearing the buyout is the issue. I can't see how. Leaving aside if there is anyone willing to write a check for it....let's pretend there isn't for a minute.

    Hud makes a million or so. The replacement coach will not. Let's say he makes $750,000. That's a $250,000 a year savings that can be used to make the payments on Hud's buyout. In a few years we are even-steven and that's not even factoring in the huge bump in revenue from improved RCAF donations and attendance that we will see from the excitement of a new coach. Any additional monies people are willing to donate to ease the blow is just icing on the cake. This is a no brainer. Hud has lost the fans, and once you do that it's time to move on.
    Lets say we bring back any coach, choose one from the past and we never get to 6-6 like we had for so long. Now RCAF is even worse, ticket sells go back to what they were used to. I dont know of anyone willing to fork up substantial pennies for his buyout. The grass isnt always greener on the other side. If hiring a new coach and going 8-4 was that easy, everyone would do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sportsfanatic21 View Post
    I'm not saying another coach couldn't make more by winning a few games, I'm saying that any coach worth his salt (and any agent that has a brain) would never agree to a contract like that. Your candidate pool would basically consist of area high school coaches.
    This is why it's almost impossible to get such an incentive laden contract. It's the agents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManAboutTown View Post
    This is why it's almost impossible to get such an incentive laden contract. It's the agents.
    Yep. That's exactly what I was trying to convey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManAboutTown View Post
    This is why it's almost impossible to get such an incentive laden contract. It's the agents.
    On the road right now, but I remember when Southern Miss hired their most recent coach they had a pretty interesting incentive based contract, maybe someone can google and post, but it is a rarity

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    Quote Originally Posted by fpc4life99 View Post
    Lets say we bring back any coach, choose one from the past and we never get to 6-6 like we had for so long. Now RCAF is even worse, ticket sells go back to what they were used to. I dont know of anyone willing to fork up substantial pennies for his buyout. The grass isnt always greener on the other side. If hiring a new coach and going 8-4 was that easy, everyone would do it.
    Did you see the stadium this past Saturday? No way a new hire doesn't bump everything up for a few years. You are right that we may find ourselves no better off win wise long term, but by then Hud will be off the books and hopefully our professional AD doesn't put us in the same hole again.

    We can't afford NOT to fire him. The buyout pales in comparison to the damage to the program another year of attendance and apathy like 2017 would bring. Huds buyout is a sunk cost. We can't afford to let it sink the whole thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManAboutTown View Post
    Its unfortunate that they don't list the assistant salaries.
    Best I could find was a 2016 report. It was too long to do the whole conference so I had to do as a PDF. I copied just UL's payroll at that time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunAmos View Post
    Best I could find was a 2016 report. It was too long to do the whole conference so I had to do as a PDF. I copied just UL's payroll at that time.
    You see, these numbers are incredibly bad. It's a problem we rarely discuss but when you're DC is making $120k, the 2016 production should have put Mike Lucas up for a HOF spot. This is a minor miracle what took place last season. My god these salaries are awful.

    Can we please start a GoFundMe account for Mike to feed his family?? $55k?? You can't live in a trailer park for that!

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    I did not want to expose that, but most coaches will give up salary to have more money in the pool for assistants. Les Miles was notorious for slight increases in his salary, but huge increases for his staff.

    The disproportion of HUD's salary to his assistants is comical.

    If a $1,000,000 head coach gives up 200k and contributes that to the assistant pool, that money goes a lot further.

    No wonder he named Munoz the OC a few years back, we couldn't afford to hire an outsider. Seems like HUD likes to thrift shop for assistants.


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