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    I agree, if the team falls below .500, take your opportunity. I would reassign HUD to an administrative role and then buy him out in 2018.

    LSU did this with Van Chancellor a few years back when he was their womens basketball coach.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MetryCajun View Post
    You do realize UL is not a sports entity. T-Joe is the boss and Maggard is an employee working in one segment of the campus. Maggard can and should make recommendations but TJoe has the final say and needs to make sure the decision fits with the overall mission of the University. Giving a guy millions of dollars to leave with no guarantee of finding someone better needs to be approached methodically. As we have seen over the past few weeks we have no idea who will win these college football games. HUD could easily win two of the next three, go to a bowl and then win it. Doubtful it happens, but nothing would surprise me.
    Giving a guy a million a year to oversee continued failure (on numerous levels) more than overcomes the risk of selecting a new coach (via intelligent information). And no, we don't know if Hud can win 2 more and be bowl eligible (no longer a huge accomplishment in the FBS). But we do know that he put us in the position of needing to win more than lose, just to get to .500... in a weak conference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MetryCajun View Post
    You do realize UL is not a sports entity. T-Joe is the boss and Maggard is an employee working in one segment of the campus. Maggard can and should make recommendations but TJoe has the final say and needs to make sure the decision fits with the overall mission of the University. Giving a guy millions of dollars to leave with no guarantee of finding someone better needs to be approached methodically. As we have seen over the past few weeks we have no idea who will win these college football games. HUD could easily win two of the next three, go to a bowl and then win it. Doubtful it happens, but nothing would surprise me.

    And I would think that is exactly why Hud was not gone after the Monroe game.

    No doubt Maggard is identifying his replacement now if he has not found him.

    I’m not sure what winning a bowl game has to do with the future of the program.

    We have won several bowl games but are not competitive in our conference.

    SAD!!!!

    I’m thankful for where Hud brought the football program and the athletic program in general, but it’s time to move. Being competitive in the Sunbelt is a MINIMUM requirement for the program given the resources it now has that DO NOT come from the university but from the FANS.

    Winning a bowl game is a diversion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kid Cajun View Post
    And I would think that is exactly why Hud was not gone after the Monroe game.

    No doubt Maggard is identifying his replacement now if he has not found him.

    I’m not sure what winning a bowl game has to do with the future of the program.

    We have won several bowl games but are not competitive in our conference.

    SAD!!!!

    I’m thankful for where Hud brought the football program and the athletic program in general, but it’s time to move. Being competitive in the Sunbelt is a MINIMUM requirement for the program given the resources it now has that DO NOT come from the university but from the FANS.

    Winning a bowl game is a diversion.
    Again, nailed it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManAboutTown View Post
    What does some crappy bowl win mean at this point? We are paying a premium for a coach that needs to deliver more, and I'm talking finances here, not necessarily wins and losses. You can't put 13k in the stands right now, Metry. It's not just about winning football games. We can get 6-6 with a bowl appearance for a lot cheaper than a Million per.. Hell, Rickey Bustle was 6-6.
    I am not disagreeing. I am just pointing out the optics. What seem like a no brainer to a fan may not seem the same to a university president or a booster required to come up with a seven figure sum. HUD is easily one of the worst recruiters in D1 football. We see it every week where we are out manned. Winning in the SBC is not about the X and O’s, it is the Jim’s and Joes. We don’t have them and HUD can’t deliver them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManAboutTown View Post
    Rickey Bustle was 6-6.
    Key regular season difference:

    Bustle got to 6-6 once

    Hud fell below 6-6 once

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    Another key difference:

    -Bustle was paid 1/4 of Hud's salary

    -Bustle had no APC to recruit to

    -Bustle had a much smaller overall budget to work with

    -During Bustle's tenure, there were fewer bowls to get invited to. 5-7 teams in bowl games are the norm now.

    Right now, we are paying Hud 4x the salary for the same exact results. I'm not saying that Bustle was the answer, but we are definitely underachieving for the resources that we have at the moment.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
    Key regular season difference:

    Bustle got to 6-6 once

    Hud fell below 6-6 once
    The point is it’s time to move FORWARD.

    Like it was said above, Hud can’t deliver anymore. Let’s thank him for what he’s done and move on.

    This is completely Huds program now. Couple coaches left from when he’s got here. All players he’s recruited.

    We can do better and move forward. Is it too much to want to be competitive in the Sunbelt???? A bowl game does not matter to me if we can’t beat Monroe at home, etc. Have you been to Monroe’s stadium? They have nicer facilities at high schools. If we don’t respect ourselves, who will respect us?

    When Hud said he couldn’t do any worse at quarterback than the players HE recruited, HE coached, HE gameplanned for, what does that say about his leadership NOW???!??

    EVERYTHING is about NOW. Not the past.

    It’s about Maggard finding us a new coach.

  9. #29

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
    Key regular season difference:

    Bustle got to 6-6 once

    Hud fell below 6-6 once
    And $800k less

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    Bustle was approaching a half mil.

    Same point though.

    Key difference:

    Bustle was sound on fundamentals but poor on motivation.

    Hud sounds good on motivation but is poor on coaching fundamentals.


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