Ugh, I mean just...UGH!!!

[CajunRebel]

I feel sorry for some posters. 🙏

I feel sorry for people who think dinosaurs existed 2,000 years ago.

[Duggie35]

I feel sorry for people who think dinosaurs existed 2,000 years ago.

I'm confident dinosaurs did not exist 2000 years ago.

[CajunRebel]

I'm confident dinosaurs did not exist 2000 years ago.

Good. If you ever start a NCAA football team I’m sure the Sun Belt would love to have you. :-)

[Jeaux]

I'm confident dinosaurs did not exist 2000 years ago.

Wait, you never heard dinosaurs built all the great pyramids in Egypt. Lol

[Turbine]

Curious as why so many are against Liberty in the SBC and CUSA. Liberty goes FBS next year. As you pointed out, they have a $50M budget and that is as an FCS school. And their facilities are as good or better than any school in either conference.

I checked their schedule for the next 3 years. Very impressive.

2017 - Baylor - Liberty won on the road
2018 - Army, N Texas, New Mexico, New Mexico State, Troy, UMass, Virginia, Auburn
2019 - Syracuse (Home), Louisiana, Buffalo, New Mexico, New Mexico State, Rutgers, UMass, BYU, Virginia
2020 - VA Tech, Bowling Green, Syracuse, S. Miss (Home), Virginia, NC State, UMass
2021 - Louisiana (Home)

I wish UL had a similar schedule.

Doesn't look like other FBS schools are having a problem playing Liberty. So, why all the heartburn? Is it because it is an FBS startup? Can't just be because it is a religious school. If so, what about Baylor, TCU, BYU, Notre Dame?

Why did both conferences turn down a $24M offer from Liberty to join? Curious as to how UL voted on this. Anyone know?

It's easy to do an impressive schedule when you are an independent.

Their schedule would take a major lick if they put on the Start Up Newbie Belt.

[Turbine]

Yeah, the litmus test should be one question: Did brontosauruses exist 2,000 years ago?

Obstinacy in the face of contrary evidence is a,highly desired trait in a football "opponent."

[Hark Mudspeth]

It's easy to do an impressive schedule when you are an independent.

Their schedule would take a major lick if they put on the Start Up Newbie Belt.

It’s also easier to be independent with a $50 mil budget, you can buy a lot of games with that instead of being the one getting bought.

[Turbine]

It's also easier to be independent with a $50 mil budget, you can buy a lot of games with that instead of being the one getting bought.

The sheer "availability" aspect embedded in being independent makes budget less of a factor.

12 games opens a lot of doors to getting appearance fees. If properly managed, that income in turn opens a lot of doors to paying opponents.

[cajunhawk]

I hear Robe prays to that Guy. Should UL disassociate with Robe? Would you blame UL if they did?

As long as he keeps his personal beliefs to himself...shouldn't be an issue.

[Turbine]

As long as he keeps his personal beliefs to himself...shouldn't be an issue.

Your adopted stance of silence was borne of personal belief.

[Hark Mudspeth]

The sheer "availability" aspect embedded in being independent makes budget less of a factor.

12 games opens a lot of doors to getting appearance fees. If properly managed, that income in turn opens a lot of doors to paying opponents.

They have a current budget of $50 million dollars...we have a current budget of $21 million dollars...which athletic department would it be easier to be independent? right here and now In real life with actual money and real budgets? Why are those doors not open now then? Where are all our P5 Home and homes? Oh that’s right we use that P5 money to operate the athletic department on our tiny budget. They don’t need money games because they have money. We need money games because we don’t have any money. Therefore having a $50 million dollar budget makes it EASIER to be independent than $20 million. Not debatable, having $30 million extra dollars would make most things in life easier...and they already have it.

[Turbine]

They have a current budget of $50 million dollars...we have a current budget of $21 million dollars...which athletic department would it be easier to be independent? right here and now In real life with actual money and real budgets? Why are those doors not open now then? Where are all our P5 Home and homes? Oh that’s right we use that P5 money to operate the athletic department on our tiny budget. They don’t need money games because they have money. We need money games because we don’t have any money. Therefore having a $50 million dollar budget makes it EASIER to be independent than $20 million. Not debatable, having $30 million extra dollars would make most things in life easier...and they already have it.

I'm not comparing UL to Liberty, I'm comparing shackled UL to independant UL.

Im saying UL can make much more money as an independent.