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    Quote Originally Posted by ManAboutTown View Post
    I know the answers to the questions Dave.
    I also know the difference between D2 and FCS. It's called snark.
    Why isn't Jay coaching somewhere?
    Why is Stewart at FCS?
    Willis went to the NFL for 6 months and hasn't been employed since.
    Wallerstedt took a lateral move. If he was so great, he'd have been hired here. For his friend, Mark Hudspeth.. But that didn't happen.. hmm.
    Their abilities as coaches have nothing to do with their personal relationship with Hud. Jay Johnson lost his job after Christmas in a very strange circumstance, now you are trying to discredit Jay Johnson abilities to further your agenda. Jay Johnson is respected enough to be given a job at Georgia and I promise you will be back at OC somewhere next year. Willis lasted 2 years with the saints while its irrelevant, at least you can be accurate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hark Mudspeth View Post
    And I suppose the HC at Minnesota getting fired was huds fault? Again, the guys left hud for promotions, how the phq does anything that happened after they left here have anything to do with hud? You realize how bitter and ridiculous you sound when you say that? I never said it was made up but if it was that bad, how could that kid stay? A coach that is his actual position coach also? Sometimes you should swallow your pride and do what’s right and leave though? The truth almost 100% of the time is in between. You choose to listen to what you want to hear. I look at what’s actually happening, gather stories from both sides and make a conclusion. Both sides of the story, and look at the facts. Players get passed off at their coach and situation all the time and leave. Players never stepping foot on campus is more concerning than a disgruntled 18-19-20 year old. It’s funny you try to downplay all these coaches promotions but then turn around and say fusilier will go play at the same school you tried to downplay rebowe going coach. So rebowe taking a promotion at Nichols isn’t really a promotion but I’m supposed to be concerned about losing fusilier to that same exact school but he is taking the exact same position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hark Mudspeth View Post
    Their abilities as coaches have nothing to do with their personal relationship with Hud. Jay Johnson lost his job after Christmas in a very strange circumstance, now you are trying to discredit Jay Johnson abilities to further your agenda. Jay Johnson is respected enough to be given a job at Georgia and I promise you will be back at OC somewhere next year. Willis lasted 2 years with the saints while its irrelevant, at least you can be accurate.
    Jay Johnson is a hell of a coach, and I thought a ton of him as a man. I have nothing bad to say about him, I was only pointing to the fact that you made these guys out to be only leaving for promotions. Jay is the exception.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hark Mudspeth View Post
    And I suppose the HC at Minnesota getting fired was huds fault? Again, the guys left hud for promotions, how the phq does anything that happened after they left here have anything to do with hud? You realize how bitter and ridiculous you sound when you say that? I never said it was made up but if it was that bad, how could that kid stay? A coach that is his actual position coach also? Sometimes you should swallow your pride and do what’s right and leave though? The truth almost 100% of the time is in between. You choose to listen to what you want to hear. I look at what’s actually happening, father stories from both sides and make a conclusion. Both sides of the story, and look at the facts. Players get passed off at their coach and situation all the time and leave. Players never stepping foot on campus is more concerning than a disgruntled 18-19-20 year old. It’s funny you try to downplay all these coaches promotions but then turn around and say fusilier will go play at the same school you tried to downplay rebowe going coach. So rebowe taking a promotion at Nichols isn’t really a promotion but I’m supposed to be concerned about losing fusilier to that same exact school but he is taking the exact same position.
    I choose to listen to what is going on around the complex. I choose to bring the conversation to the public and let people get BOTH sides of the story, because god knows, the cheerleaders will always paint the most positive picture and leave supporters in the dark. Where else are you going to get the darker side of the story, 1420? Hudspeths attrition rate is very bad. People wonder why. I try to shed light. Team goes in the tank over the past 3 years, people wonder why. Kids walk off the field, post locker room videos, get arrested, talk ____ to fans on social mieda, PEOPLE WONDER wtf is going on with our football program.. I try to tell the story we would NEVER get else where.

    Outside of Whitt and Jay, I don't have to downplay the promotions, because they are minor promotions at best. None of that is the point. You are over-sensationalizing (which you accuse others of) by going the extreme opposite of what people say here. Of course it's not always Huds fault. I've defended him on many occasions on personnel decisions. The fact is, some serious ____ has gone on over the last few years. It isn't a narrative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManAboutTown View Post
    Jay Johnson is a hell of a coach, and I thought a ton of him as a man. I have nothing bad to say about him, I was only pointing to the fact that you made these guys out to be only leaving for promotions. Jay is the exception.
    They all did, regardless if you want to admit it. Stewart, Smith and Lovings are the ones who didn’t.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManAboutTown View Post
    Jay Johnson is a hell of a coach, and I thought a ton of him as a man. I have nothing bad to say about him, I was only pointing to the fact that you made these guys out to be only leaving for promotions. Jay is the exception.
    he named all of the promotions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hark Mudspeth View Post
    Their abilities as coaches have nothing to do with their personal relationship with Hud. Jay Johnson lost his job after Christmas in a very strange circumstance, now you are trying to discredit Jay Johnson abilities to further your agenda. Jay Johnson is respected enough to be given a job at Georgia and I promise you will be back at OC somewhere next year. Willis lasted 2 years with the saints while its irrelevant, at least you can be accurate.
    Impossible to convince him, but every single one of these guys, with the exception of Smith and Stewart were in or are in better situations after they left and both of them were fired.

    Jay P5 OC vs G5 OC--Promotion
    Rebowe HC at FCS vs position coach at G5 FBS--Promotion
    Whitt P5 vs G5 same position--Promotion
    Willis NFL position coach vs G5 DC--Promotion
    Wallerstedt G5 Position coach vs G5 DC--Promotion
    Stewart FIRED at UL, now DC at FCS (downgrade but again you were fired), lucky to still be a DC at the D1 level
    Smith FIRED at UL, now DC at FCS (downgrade but again you were fired)lucky to be a DC at the D1 level

    Coaching business is tough, you try to better yourself at every turn. The guys above with the exception of Smith and Stewart did. Can not control what happens after that. Willis did not get fired because of ability, the Saint D sucked, most of the coaches were fired. Vince Lombardi could have been coaching and it would not have made a difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManAboutTown View Post
    I choose to listen to what is going on around the complex. I choose to bring the conversation to the public and let people get BOTH sides of the story, because god knows, the cheerleaders will always paint the most positive picture and leave supporters in the dark. Where else are you going to get the darker side of the story, 1420? Hudspeths attrition rate is very bad. People wonder why. I try to shed light. Team goes in the tank over the past 3 years, people wonder why. Kids walk off the field, post locker room videos, get arrested, talk ____ to fans on social mieda, PEOPLE WONDER wtf is going on with our football program.. I try to tell the story we would NEVER get else where.

    Outside of Whitt and Jay, I don't have to downplay the promotions, because they are minor promotions at best. None of that is the point. You are over-sensationalizing (which you accuse others of) by going the extreme opposite of what people say here. Of course it's not always Huds fault. I've defended him on many occasions on personnel decisions. The fact is, some serious ____ has gone on over the last few years. It isn't a narrative.
    If it was that serious he would be fired, with cause. If he was winning nobody would care...it’s serious because he is failing and people want him gone. If he was in the top 25 the same people would be defending him to the haters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaginDave View Post
    Impossible to convince him, but every single one of these guys, with the exception of Smith and Stewart were in or are in better situations after they left and both of them were fired.

    Jay P5 OC vs G5 OC--Promotion
    Rebowe HC at FCS vs position coach at G5 FBS--Promotion
    Whitt P5 vs G5 same position--Promotion
    Willis NFL position coach vs G5 DC--Promotion
    Wallerstedt G5 Position coach vs G5 DC--Promotion
    Stewart FIRED at UL, now DC at FCS (downgrade but again you were fired), lucky to still be a DC at the D1 level
    Smith FIRED at UL, now DC at FCS (downgrade but again you were fired)lucky to be a DC at the D1 level

    Coaching business is tough, you try to better yourself at every turn. The guys above with the exception of Smith and Stewart did. Can not control what happens after that. Willis did not get fired because of ability, the Saint D sucked, most of the coaches were fired. Vince Lombardi could have been coaching and it would not have made a difference.
    And the only one of these coaches that were ever discussed with a riff between them was Willis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManAboutTown View Post
    And the only one of these coaches that were ever discussed with a riff between them was Willis.
    thats just not true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hark Mudspeth View Post
    If it was that serious he would be fired, with cause. If he was winning nobody would care...it’s serious because he is failing and people want him gone. If he was in the top 25 the same people would be defending him to the haters.
    Like Tim Beckman right?
    Or Mike Lenogren?
    Or Ken Wilson?

    All HUGE "winners" and got away with murder. Give me a break.
    I'm not accusing Hudspeth of total player mistreatment, but you're downplaying a situation that you know nothing about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeauxCajuns View Post
    thats just not true.
    Then sing for us little birdie..

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaginDave View Post
    Impossible to convince him, but every single one of these guys, with the exception of Smith and Stewart were in or are in better situations after they left and both of them were fired.

    Jay P5 OC vs G5 OC--Promotion
    Rebowe HC at FCS vs position coach at G5 FBS--Promotion
    Whitt P5 vs G5 same position--Promotion
    Willis NFL position coach vs G5 DC--Promotion
    Wallerstedt G5 Position coach vs G5 DC--Promotion
    Stewart FIRED at UL, now DC at FCS (downgrade but again you were fired), lucky to still be a DC at the D1 level
    Smith FIRED at UL, now DC at FCS (downgrade but again you were fired)lucky to be a DC at the D1 level

    Coaching business is tough, you try to better yourself at every turn. The guys above with the exception of Smith and Stewart did. Can not control what happens after that. Willis did not get fired because of ability, the Saint D sucked, most of the coaches were fired. Vince Lombardi could have been coaching and it would not have made a difference.
    Jay P5 OC vs G5 OC--Promotion
    Rebowe HC at FCS vs position coach at G5 FBS--Promotion (Was not going to be retained by HUD)
    Whitt P5 vs G5 same position--Promotion
    Willis NFL position coach vs G5 DC--Promotion
    Wallerstedt G5 Position coach vs G5 DC--Promotion (He was DC here. LATERAL MOVE)
    Stewart FIRED at UL, now DC at FCS (downgrade but again you were fired), lucky to still be a DC at the D1 level (Publicily thrown under the bus)
    Smith FIRED at UL, now DC at FCS (downgrade but again you were fired)lucky to be a DC at the D1 level)

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    The fact is he should have been fired with cause after the sanctions. He has floundered ever since then. He will be fired when we go 3-9.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cajun4life View Post
    The fact is he should have been fired with cause after the sanctions. He has floundered ever since then. He will be fired when we go 3-9.
    no problem with this.

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