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    Quote Originally Posted by Hudsheen#winnin View Post
    No, there is a huuggggeee difference between giving up 66 versus giving up 22
    Yes!

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    If you make $14 an hour and tickets cost you $22 it is no different than if you make $42 an hour and tickets cost you $66

    Just be glad you make $42 and most of your tickets (if not all) this year will be a lot less than $66

    edit ps: Weekly wages may vary.


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    Jesus. The end result is you want at least 1 more point than the other team. You can't scale that!

    If you are losing 22-14 with the ball on the other team's 1 with 5 seconds left you still have a chance to tie and go to overtime. Same scenario, down 66-42.....where are you?

    Your analysis is silly.


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    Quote Originally Posted by charliek View Post
    Jesus. The end result is you want at least 1 more point than the other team. You can't scale that!

    If you are losing 22-14 with the ball on the other team's 1 with 5 seconds left you still have a chance to tie and go to overtime. Same scenario, down 66-42.....where are you?

    Your analysis is silly.
    Unless you are calling for 3.5 yards and a pile of dust per play your angst factor shouldn't change.

    In a high scoring game your ability to make quick decisions changes dramatically, either you are used to it or it is new to you.

    If you are NOT used to it you make decisions like prematurely going for 2, an early onside kick, repeating the same failed trick play, poor WC QB substitutions, throwing away a 3rd down when you SHOULD know you are willing to go for it on 4th. (and that's just offensive decisions)

    If you are not used to thinking quickly you don't realize you are willing to go for it on 4th until the time arrives.

    Tempo Changes Everything, but it shouldn't budge how you feel about losing the game.

    UL had a better average gain per play than Tulsa but it seems the ability to make clear concise decisions on offense at key moments in the game put the defense in position to have to make many more stops than Tulsa's defense had to make.

    The shear number of plays brings the "key play" up from 1-2 to 5 or more.

    Tempo Changes Everything

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    So all we needed to do was scale ourselves a 24 point game tying touchdown. Duly noted.


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    Quote Originally Posted by charliek View Post
    So all we needed to do was scale ourselves a 24 point game tying touchdown. Duly noted.
    The flip side of your fippedness is saying we should have only scored 14.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
    Unless you are calling for 3.5 yards and a pile of dust per play your angst factor shouldn't change.

    In a high scoring game your ability to make quick decisions changes dramatically, either you are used to it or it is new to you.

    If you are NOT used to it you make decisions like prematurely going for 2, an early onside kick, repeating the same failed trick play, poor WC QB substitutions, throwing away a 3rd down when you SHOULD know you are willing to go for it on 4th. (and that's just offensive decisions)

    If you are not used to thinking quickly you don't realize you are willing to go for it on 4th until the time arrives.

    Tempo Changes Everything, but it shouldn't budge how you feel about losing the game.

    UL had a better average gain per play than Tulsa but it seems the ability to make clear concise decisions on offense at key moments in the game put the defense in position to have to make many more stops than Tulsa's defense had to make.

    The shear number of plays brings the "key play" up from 1-2 to 5 or more.

    Tempo Changes Everything
    All of this would matter if the point was to determine how close of a loss you had. And the only place that seems to matter is at USL.

    The goal of the game is to WIN. In that case 24 is light years from 8. The rest of that is excuses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charliek View Post
    All of this would matter if the point was to determine how close of a loss you had. And the only place that seems to matter is at USL.

    The goal of the game is to WIN. In that case 24 is light years from 8. The rest of that is excuses.
    You can lose and be competitive. I don't think we were competitive. I'm not interested in whose defense sucked more. I'm I interested in winning, and how you win matters. I wouldn't feel one bit better if we scored 67 and won. I'd still know we've got an enormous problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charliek View Post
    All of this would matter if the point was to determine how close of a loss you had. And the only place that seems to matter is at USL.

    The goal of the game is to WIN. In that case 24 is light years from 8. The rest of that is excuses.
    That is the point the closeness of the loss is identical, the gap is identical.

    Three times the action in the space of one game.

    Either you make it your forte or you dial it back. I love the offense I would love to see it continue.

    Rarely do you see a super potent offense coupled with a shut down defense.

    There is no time for the defense to prepare in an up tempo game and it might not have mattered if they did against Tulsa. They averaged 42 last year and seem to be picking up where they left off.

    Hud was wise to go toe to toe ( UL's scoring percentage would have gone down with ball control) but in the end UL wasn't use to the quick thinking nuances of up tempo.

    I do think UL should have stacked to box and forced them to go over the top, even if they were successful I doubt they would have scored much faster and it may have rattled the new QB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
    That is the point the closeness of the loss is identical, the gap is identical.

    Three times the action in the space of one game.

    Either you make it your forte or you dial it back. I love the offense I would love to see it continue.

    Rarely do you see a super potent offense coupled with a shut down defense.

    There is no time for the defense to prepare in an up tempo game and it might not have mattered if they did against Tulsa. They averaged 42 last year and seem to be picking up where they left off.

    Hud was wise to go toe to toe ( UL's scoring percentage would have gone down with ball control) but in the end UL wasn't use to the quick thinking nuances of up tempo.

    I do think UL should have stacked to box and forced them to go over the top, even if they were successful I doubt they would have scored much faster and it may have rattled the new QB.
    We made like 2 stops all game. We would have lost by 3 scores to any type of offense making only 2 stops. It's not like they were throwing every down. They scored 66 point primarily RUNNING the ball. They could have huddled at the end of every play and still beat us by 3 scores, BECAUSE WE COULD NOT STOP THE RUN.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charliek View Post
    We made like 2 stops all game. We would have lost by 3 scores to any type of offense making only 2 stops. It's not like they were throwing every down. They scored 66 point primarily RUNNING the ball. They could have huddled at the end of every play and still beat us by 3 scores, BECAUSE WE COULD NOT STOP THE RUN.
    Could not, and did not, are two different things.

    How many times did UL stack the box and force their hand?

    Would they have scored any faster? Pick-6?

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