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    Quote Originally Posted by Hark Mudspeth View Post
    The direction of the program will depend on the next hire, that's it. You make a good hire the program will be just fine. You make a bad hire we are screwed. That's the bottom line whether it's this year or next or the next..or any year. I think we will surprise people in conference personally if Davis can stay healthy. Given the buyout amount I think he will be given next year with a senior QB to try and right the ship. If he doesn't then he will have been given plenty opportunity and the buyout becomes more manageable.
    Yes. Now if there is another scandal, this may make the administration take early action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MetryCajun View Post
    Yes. Now if there is another scandal, this may make the administration take early action.
    Agreed.

  3. UL Football Re: Official fire hud thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Hark Mudspeth View Post
    The direction of the program will depend on the next hire, that's it. You make a good hire the program will be just fine. You make a bad hire we are screwed. That's the bottom line whether it's this year or next or the next..or any year. I think we will surprise people in conference personally if Davis can stay healthy. Given the buyout amount I think he will be given next year with a senior QB to try and right the ship. If he doesn't then he will have been given plenty opportunity and the buyout becomes more manageable.
    No QB has had a healthy season under Hud. All have missed or been playing hurt in every season. Davis won't start every game this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunEXPRESS View Post
    No QB has had a healthy season under Hud. All have missed or been playing hurt in every season. Davis won't start every game this year.
    It isn't just Hud, i think it goes back to Jake. I know you are really trying to pile on the guy but damn. I still think we will do well in conference, 6-2 is not out of the question and certainly earns him another year with Davis returning. You do realize a guy playing hurt for a coach and his teammates goes against the argument that everyone on earth hates the man right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunEXPRESS View Post
    Mike if you're not willing to renew, you shouldn't keep him. We'll lose more than two million in revenue streams by keeping him on.
    That is not my poinT. I understand losing more by keeping than changing. Point is where will the funds to pay the buyout come from. I don't think such a person or group of people exists in this economy. We are not talking a couple of hundred grand which was the case when Coach Bustle departed. It is 10 times that amount. School cannot borrow to do it due to what is owed for the baseball stadium. As MetryCajun has said, folks would be happy if someone ponied up those funds but we just don't know who has that kind of extra cash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajunsmike View Post
    That is not my poinT. I understand losing more by keeping than changing. Point is where will the funds to pay the buyout come from. I don't think such a person or group of people exists in this economy. We are not talking a couple of hundred grand which was the case when Coach Bustle departed. It is 10 times that amount. School cannot borrow to do it due to what is owed for the baseball stadium. As MetryCajun has said, folks would be happy if someone ponied up those funds but we just don't know who has that kind of extra cash.
    I think express would be surprised how few people would join him in his $1,000 pledge. We all love the Cajuns but not so much that we are going to give our hard earned money so a coach does not coach. I think we can all agree HUD is 100% accountable for the product on the field. He knows his back is against the wall. I am curious to see if he can finally put a competent offense and defense on the field in the same year. If he can't his contract should not be renewed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hark Mudspeth View Post
    It isn't just Hud, i think it goes back to Jake. I know you are really trying to pile on the guy but damn. I still think we will do well in conference, 6-2 is not out of the question and certainly earns him another year with Davis returning. You do realize a guy playing hurt for a coach and his teammates goes against the argument that everyone on earth hates the man right?
    I'm not trying to pile on Hud on this issue. I'm telling you Davis isn't likely to have a complete season, and we've got no real alternative. The original poster was calling for a season without serious downtime. I don't see that happening.

    I don't recall Jake being out. I know Mitchell was the man of steel literally. He had a sprain that slowed him a little one season. Other than that he was 109%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunEXPRESS View Post
    I'm not trying to pile on Hud on this issue. I'm telling you Davis isn't likely to have a complete season, and we've got no real alternative. The original poster was calling for a season without serious downtime. I don't see that happening.

    I don't recall Jake being out. I know Mitchell was the man of steel literally. He had a sprain that slowed him a little one season. Other than that he was 109%.
    I meant that I think Jake was the last QB we had that was healthy through an entire season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MetryCajun View Post
    I think express would be surprised how few people would join him in his $1,000 pledge. We all love the Cajuns but not so much that we are going to give our hard earned money so a coach does not coach. I think we can all agree HUD is 100% accountable for the product on the field. He knows his back is against the wall. I am curious to see if he can finally put a competent offense and defense on the field in the same year. If he can't his contract should not be renewed.
    I'm curious.. If we lose to ULM.. what opinion do you have in terms of Hud... I totally agree that UL will never be that school with the $$$ to fire a coach mid season w/out just cause. But us losing to Ulm this saturday and the fall out that is sure to proceed ( ZERO ATTENDANCE, lack of morale in football, people calling for HUDS HEAD, recruiting suffering, donations bottoming out etc, what your your opinion be then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeauxLouisiana View Post
    You won't need $2MM to cover the buyout and the new coaching staff salary. You just need to cover the buyout. A new coach's salary will have to be paid regardless, so the money is there through current RCAF donations and university funds. We'd very likely get a new coach in the $600K-$750K range, so there would be cost savings there.

    Update: The buyout for firing Hud as of 12/31/2017 is $1.5MM.
    Your $1.5 Mil is correct, but it doesn't take in account that both coordinators are also on contract. The rest of the staff is year-to-year according to the last information I received.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajunsmike View Post
    That is not my poinT. I understand losing more by keeping than changing. Point is where will the funds to pay the buyout come from. I don't think such a person or group of people exists in this economy. We are not talking a couple of hundred grand which was the case when Coach Bustle departed. It is 10 times that amount. School cannot borrow to do it due to what is owed for the baseball stadium. As MetryCajun has said, folks would be happy if someone ponied up those funds but we just don't know who has that kind of extra cash.
    Mike, you are under the assumption that there is no one willing to buy out Hudspeth today because no one has posted any names. That may, or may not be true. I certainly haven't spoken to anyone that is capable of shelling out that kind of money to get rid of a football coach right now. I've heard a few names tossed out, but nothing I can validate.

    I believe coaches fire themselves, meaning eventually Hudpseth's performance on and off the field will ultimately determine the rest of his tenure at UL. The question in my mind is what would Dr. Savoie do if the money was available and his AD advised him to terminate Hudspeth? Dr. Savoie is a person that considers political winds, doesn't like conflict and simply prefers to transfer poor performing subordinates to other departments rather than terminating them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunT View Post
    Dr. Savoie is a person that considers political winds, doesn't like conflict and simply prefers to transfer poor performing subordinates to other departments rather than terminating them.
    Is that your view of Dr. Savoie? After the way he handled the AD job last year I'm not sure I agree. I understand SF was transferred but......

    Would like to hear your thoughts.

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