Elijah McGuire

[Clutch0364]

The NFL is hitting the G5 and FCS ranks more than you'd think. Fenroy didn't get a sniff bc he was good enough for the NFL. Eli will play on Sundays whether he go's this year or next.

Exactly. You can't look at Fenroy the same way as Eli. Fenroy was a good college football player but I never looked at him and thought he'd be even a serviceable NFL guy. Eli has it.

[CajunEXPRESS]

--Not me!!!

He misused Nixon as a quarterback. He didn't give Nixon the plays that best suited his talent. Of course he should never started but that's a different misuse.

He misused Haack as well. Didn't give him a winning game plan.

[Just1More]

The NFL is hitting the G5 and FCS ranks more than you'd think. Fenroy didn't get a sniff bc he was good enough for the NFL. Eli will play on Sundays whether he go's this year or next.

Exactly. But I think like the article states, he will not go as high in the draft this year than he could have... had his talents (that the NFL values) had been showcased. He isn't an every down line banging back. That's what we did with him last year. He could go to workouts with teams this year and get serious consideration... but no one is going to waste a middle to high draft on him. They'll all decide he's a middle to late round "smart buy". If he has a big year next year, I think he'll go in the higher middle in the following draft. It's more to do with money than likelihood he sees a career on Sunday. Once he makes an NFL unit, he's going to stick.

[Just1More]

He misused Nixon as a quarterback. He didn't give Nixon the plays that best suited his talent. Of course he should never started but that's a different misuse.

He misused Haack as well. Didn't give him a winning game plan.

I know we've beaten this to death... but we've still got a few fans that don't get it... and they are absolutely dead ___ wrong. Our staff had plenty of excuses to blame for last year. But they added some of the worst coaching on top of those issues that I've seen in decades. I hope complete failure on their part last year serves as a catalyst to massive improvement this year.

[CajunEXPRESS]

Zo would have struggled with the offensive line we had this year.

Yes, and the Prophet didn't do well his first two seasons between the tackles. He's a back that is a nightmare in space not between the tackles.

Between the tackles Zo would constantly get 4-5 yards. The Prophet 3-4 when both had a far better line and receivers.

[ManAboutTown]

Were you ever a college coach? Boomer was which gives him more credibility than most on this board. And to compare Boomer in anyway to Bill Cosby is something you should apologize for.

There are so many ways I could take this. Ah, the possibilities..

Some of you guys are so uptight. Do you read this board at all? I bust boomers balls on the reg, bro. It's all in fun. I've stated many times that I respect and appreciate all boomer (and his lovely wife) has done for SLI/USL/UL.

(In the words of Stephen A) HOW-EV-AH... His stance on Jalen Nixon is about as absurd as my ridiculous "comparison" to Cosby, and his continued ignoring of reality leaves him open to the ridicule. And I think he knows that.

But to take it a step further.. Suggestioning Boomer is more credible because he coached leather helmet football in 1890 than the next conscientious observer is akin to saying the doctors that put heroine in Bayer aspirin 100 years ago should really be taken seriously.

Take a deep breathe pal.

[CRAWFISH61]

First, Boomer keeps using stupid statistics as the basis for his claims. And they are dumber than dumb when you know the facts behind the statistics (in the Haack versus Nixon debate). Second, do you agree that "our best performances were that of Nixon"? And lastly, if Nixon was even close to the "best performer at QB"... and our existing coaching staff doesn't even use him at QB next year... why is "Boomer the coach" not in agreement with the entire UL coaching staff? Who has more credibility... Boomer or our current coaching staff?

The secret to being someone that wants respect for their credentials is to either say something intelligent or keep your mouth shut. Boomer refuses. MAT wasn't making a direct comparison to Bill Cosby. He was using gross exaggeration. It was funny. And there's never anything wrong with funny.

It was disrespectful not funny. It was tactless not funny. It is pretty funny that people who have never coached think they know more than the professionals. I thought both Haack and Nixon both had to prove that they were college quarterbacks. I don't think either one did it.

[AstroCajun]

The NFL is hitting the G5 and FCS ranks more than you'd think. Fenroy didn't get a sniff bc he was good enough for the NFL. Eli will play on Sundays whether he go's this year or next.

It didn't help that Fenroy didn't have a bowl to showcase his talents. He was good, but he needed a spotlight.

Do you really believe, for example, that Alfred Morris was a better back than Fenroy?

[Just1More]

Exactly. You can't look at Fenroy the same way as Eli. Fenroy was a good college football player but I never looked at him and thought he'd be even a serviceable NFL guy. Eli has it.

Absolutely. No comparison whatsoever between those two excellent college RBs. I wasn't sure if Fenroy would measure out when he was tested by the NFL. But it didn't surprise me when he didn't. He had assets in the RB categories at enough of a combined level that made him a great RB in the system we used (most incredible QB/RB combo athlete misdirection handoff ever in college football). But Fenroy didn't peak in any particular RB category (speed, size, cutting ability). Eli is vastly more "shifty", he's actually by the measurements of the NFL "a bigger back" than Fenroy (Fenroy was a "weight lifter" for size - not natural frame size), Eli is quicker... and a very big asset Eli brings to the table is he is a phenomenal receiver. That adds more than doubles his value to the NFL. He can be used as a RB, receiver out of the backfield, slot receiver, and kick/punt return specialist. There really is no comparison to the two. But again... both are fantastic collegiate RBs.

Fenroy was utiltized precisely for what he could offer UL. Eli was squandered last year.

[CRAWFISH61]

There are so many ways I could take this. Ah, the possibilities..

Some of you guys are so uptight. Do you read this board at all? I bust boomers balls on the reg, bro. It's all in fun. I've stated many times that I respect and appreciate all boomer (and his lovely wife) has done for SLI/USL/UL.

(In the words of Stephen A) HOW-EV-AH... His stance on Jalen Nixon is about as absurd as my ridiculous "comparison" to Cosby, and his continued ignoring of reality leaves him open to the ridicule. And I think he knows that.

But to take it a step further.. Suggestioning Boomer is more credible because he coached leather helmet football in 1890 than the next conscientious observer is akin to saying the doctors that put heroine in Bayer aspirin 100 years ago should really be taken seriously.

Take a deep breathe pal.

Your the only one who can bust balls. Your the only one who can be critical. Nothing funny about comparing a good man to a mass rapist. Think before you type. Give Boomer some respect.

[CrappDaddy]

It didn't help that Fenroy didn't have a bowl to showcase his talents. He was good, but he needed a spotlight.

Do you really believe, for example, that Alfred Morris was a better back than Fenroy?

Yes, I do. I bet if you can dig up their respective pro day performances, you'll see that Morris is likely bigger faster and stronger than Fenroy was.

[Just1More]

It was disrespectful not funny. It was tactless not funny. It is pretty funny that people who have never coached think they know more than the professionals. I thought both Haack and Nixon both had to prove that they were college quarterbacks. I don't think either one did it.

I find humor in almost everything. And I found nothing wrong whatsoever in making that silly comment. Being that Boomer isn't remotely associated with sex crimes... and Bill Cosby doesn't know a Nixon from a Haack... you couldn't possibly misinterpret the jab at the credibility bomb MAT tossed... unless you wanted to. MAT knows Boomer and he's trying to blow wind up his skirt.

I've got news for you... every person that played (or even excelled) at a sport is not the most knowledgable person in that sport. I know scratch golfers that can't teach golf. I know average golfers that are phenomenal teachers. I know people that chose to be engineers that would kick the living ____ out of just about anyone in any other profession... but they chose engineering. You don't get to do everything in this short life... but that doesn't mean because you didn't... that you wouldn't destroy others in the "smarts category" of any profession.

The proof of greatness is not in participating. It's in being great. I want Boomer to prove to be a great mind of football. I'm hammering on him to get that started on our forum before it's too late. I fear all we will remember him by is his obsession with secondary sexual characteristics. It's scary what a little information can do to some people.

PS I really like him. If I thought I was doing harm... I'd stop.