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    The man has been and still being given time...can he not have a UTA,LATECH ,UALR,Georgia state,USM type season at some point? Is that really too much to expect in 8 years? All similar schools in close proximity.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hark Mudspeth View Post
    The man has been and still being given time...can he not have a UTA,LATECH ,UALR,Georgia state,USM type season at some point? Is that really too much to expect in 8 years? All similar schools in close proximity.
    I agree. And I've said many times here, if he can't win the league and take a salty team to the NCAAs next year with the influx of talent we'll have, the leadership we'll have and the veteran experience we'll have... Then he can't win big here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManAboutTown View Post
    I agree. And I've said many times here, if he can't win the league and take a salty team to the NCAAs next year with the influx of talent we'll have, the leadership we'll have and the veteran experience we'll have... Then he can't win big here.
    ----Guess I can complain at this time about something that I think is STUPID----after the game and the win the team goes over to the student body area and the student body is walking out the place---the team then sings the fight song W/O the band (acappella) and then the band plays the fight song as the team walks away---So we get a student leader to ask the students at the game to stay a couple of minutes longer and sing the fight song with the team and band----a mission for the Brocksman possibly!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajun90 View Post
    MAT I'm in line with you on this issue.

    I think we often give coaches too much credit and too much blame. Marlin sets a good tone for our STUDENT athletes. He could do more in regards to fundraising but he is hamstringed unlike other major coaches at UL.

    It is not a good situation and I'm not saying he is the answer but I also don't think he is a "problem". I question how much success any coach would have under some of the limitations placed on the program at this stage.

    With all that said we are talking large picture. Bring things back down to this season and you have to give them credit up to this point. Job well done.

    It will be interested to see what a new AD does but given the huge mountain of college basketball in the deep south and some of our own limitations it would not surprise me to see that this isn't a priority. Baseball and softball are rolling and Football drives the bus so don't be surprised if basketball is the red headed step child for a while longer.
    I don't think many people fully understand that MBB at UL and the SBC have the potential to be the biggest moneymaker of any sport by virtue of the NCAA dance money.

    To do that though we need multiple participants and getting at least two games into the tournament. Instead the coaches in the SBC protect their collective resumes.

    Coach Marlin could do more to raise money for the team. Would it cut into his coaching and recruiting duties? Can't answer that, but I'm thinking probably not as much as some think. I'd love to see what Marlin's non coaching time looks like.

    Thanks to the coaches and players for a great win last night. Fighting the zebras and Mavericks isn't easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boomer View Post
    ----Guess I can complain at this time about something that I think is STUPID----after the game and the win the team goes over to the student body area and the student body is walking out the place---the team then sings the fight song W/O the band (acappella) and then the band plays the fight song as the team walks away---So we get a student leader to ask the students at the game to stay a couple of minutes longer and sing the fight song with the team and band----a mission for the Brocksman possibly!!!
    What students?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrockMeaux View Post
    What students?
    ----the few, the proud, the ones in need of a tradition leader----Now they can dance but Brock seriously, what is the deal with the band members shooting FTs for the bike---that is almost embarrassing or maybe not almost!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boomer View Post
    ----the few, the proud, the ones in need of a tradition leader----Now they can dance but Brock seriously, what is the deal with the band members shooting FTs for the bike---that is almost embarrassing or maybe not almost!!!
    Myself and a few other former band members had a text chain going after the 2nd band kid barely hit the backboard. We were embarrassed and ashamed as former basketball band members.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunEXPRESS View Post
    I don't think many people fully understand that MBB at UL and the SBC have the potential to be the biggest moneymaker of any sport by virtue of the NCAA dance money.

    To do that though we need multiple participants and getting at least two games into the tournament. Instead the coaches in the SBC protect their collective resumes.

    Coach Marlin could do more to raise money for the team. Would it cut into his coaching and recruiting duties? Can't answer that, but I'm thinking probably not as much as some think. I'd love to see what Marlin's non coaching time looks like.

    Thanks to the coaches and players for a great win last night. Fighting the zebras and Mavericks isn't easy.
    Agree. It's a complex issue all around.

    At this stage I'll be happy to overachieve this year and have big expectations for next. The kids deserve nothing less.

    Personally I think Marlin could do more for the program outside of his coaching duties but I'm still not convinced that would make a noticeable difference to the program as a whole .

    I know this....Marlin has definitely convinced a bunch of players this year that they are relevant and they do have a chance to do something special. I'm good with that. The rest can wait until after the season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajun90 View Post
    Agree. It's a complex issue all around.

    At this stage I'll be happy to overachieve this year and have big expectations for next. The kids deserve nothing less.

    Personally I think Marlin could do more for the program outside of his coaching duties but I'm still not convinced that would make a noticeable difference to the program as a whole .

    I know this....Marlin has definitely convinced a bunch of players this year that they are relevant and they do have a chance to do something special. I'm good with that. The rest can wait until after the season.
    ----Oh and one more lil thought on this great game---don't forget that UTA played their AZZ off and that they I think are very well coached----the rebounding was WAR, talk about some bodies bumping and they are so very talented and speaking of wars, their point and ours did battle!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajun90 View Post
    MAT I'm in line with you on this issue.

    I think we often give coaches too much credit and too much blame. Marlin sets a good tone for our STUDENT athletes. He could do more in regards to fundraising but he is hamstringed unlike other major coaches at UL.

    It is not a good situation and I'm not saying he is the answer but I also don't think he is a "problem". I question how much success any coach would have under some of the limitations placed on the program at this stage.

    With all that said we are talking large picture. Bring things back down to this season and you have to give them credit up to this point. Job well done.

    It will be interested to see what a new AD does but given the huge mountain of college basketball in the deep south and some of our own limitations it would not surprise me to see that this isn't a priority. Baseball and softball are rolling and Football drives the bus so don't be surprised if basketball is the red headed step child for a while longer.
    That is an interesting point. Basketball was at the the pinnacle of our athletics and now it no longer is. But basketball became the favorite sport of many during the Shipley-Paschal years and it still is for a significant core of fans today.

    I hope Dr. Maggard can figure out a way to keep the torch lit for these people. I still think having past success can help bring it back to prominence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VObserver View Post
    But, as you know, Marlin has attracted less direct support of MBB, in terms of money given to the program, than baseball or softball, to the tune of about a 3 to 1 advantage for each of the stick and ball sports. That dog don't hunt.

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    I have talked to former players on this subject: "Marlin is the First Coach to Do Right by the Program."


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