Great Expectations – From the Bird's Nest

[CajunEXPRESS]

I'm not certain, but I'm pretty sure he's only been in top three of conferences play once. If you're not dominating and top three you're competing, but mediocre. He's been mediocre his entire tenure.

[MelRock]

Great so again you grab an arbitrary number that fits your agenda. Again I am not saying these are acceptable finishes.
2010-11 First in West, 2nd overall beset record
2011-12 3rd in West, 4th overall best record
2012-13 3rd in West, 8th overall best record
2013-14 3rd best record
2014-15 4th best record
2015-16 4th best record
So once in those years finished outside of the top 4 and we will again this year. Again not sure how he is not successful up against his "peers" which was what I was responding to. But by all means keep a moving target until it fits your agenda.

[CajunEXPRESS]

Not a moving target at all. Finish in top three or you're mediocre. I'll give you three years to turn things around. Lots of coaches who out coached Marlin have moved to better gigs in SBC.

Is it insulting to be upper average in a low level conference? Fans wanted Marty Fletcher gone because he started out losing to Tommy Joe Eagles and Tim Floyd. He actually changed that around.

We'll have Marlin almost a decade before his lack of success is addressed.

[Cajunsmike]

Not a moving target at all. Finish in top three or you're mediocre. I'll give you three years to turn things around. Lots of coaches who out coached Marlin have moved to better gigs in SBC.

Is it insulting to be upper average in a low level conference? Fans wanted Marty Fletcher gone because he started out losing to Tommy Joe Eagles and Tim Floyd. He actually changed that around.

We'll have Marlin almost a decade before his lack of success is addressed.

Marty had losing seasons two of his last three years. That is why he was replaced. Losing Butch Pierre as his recruiter pretty much signaled the end of his tenure. With a strong finish this year I suspect we will have five consecutive D1 winning seasons after next year. Different situation than the end of Marty Fletcher's tenure. Coach Marlin has finished third once since we left divisional play and lower than fourth only once. I understand some view that as mediocre as we should be in the Top 3 more consistently. However, I am not sure how that relates to a possible change from the perspective of the administration. Personally, I think a losing season overall or in conference will have to occur at some point for a change to be seriously considered. A 0.500 conference season may cause it. If we are 6 and 8 at this time next year as we are now, there will be serious pressure and deservedly so. Express may be right in that he may be here a decade as I don't see either a losing season overall or in conference occurring for a couple of years following this season. As far as the conference is concerned, the SBC is not low level this year. Last time I looked it is 12th out of over 30 leagues. Granted that is the best it has been in years. It is also one of the few mid major leagues to have it's champion win a game two consecutive years in the NCAA tourney. I understand that some will say anything out of the Top 10 indicates you are in a lower level league.

[zephyr]

Marty had losing seasons two of his last three years. That is why he was replaced. Losing Butch Pierre as his recruiter pretty much signaled the end of his tenure. With a strong finish this year I suspect we will have five consecutive D1 winning seasons after next year. Coach Marlin has finished third once since we left divisional play and lower than fourth only once. I understand some view that as mediocre as we should be in the Top 3 more consistently. However, I am not sure how that relates to a possible change. I think a losing season overall or in conference will have to occur next season for a change to be seriously considered.

The logical side of me is in complete agreement with you and Melrock. The fan side of me agrees with Express (As hard as it is to admit ). Whether we have a group of blue collar undersized guys or future NBA players, we seem to have the same end result.

[Cajunsmike]

The logical side of me is in complete agreement with you and Melrock. The fan side of me agrees with Express (As hard as it is to admit ). Whether we have a group of blue collar undersized guys or future NBA players, we seem to have the same end result.

My comments stating that a future losing season overall or in conference will have to occur before a change is considered are related to how I see believe the administration views things. That is not necessarily how I would handle things. I would definitely not make a change this year as it was expected to be a rebuilding year. However, I want to see progress next season in the conference standings.

[CajunEXPRESS]

Marty had losing seasons two of his last three years. That is why he was replaced. Losing Butch Pierre as his recruiter pretty much signaled the end of his tenure. With a strong finish this year I suspect we will have five consecutive D1 winning seasons after next year. Coach Marlin has finished third once since we left divisional play and lower than fourth only once. I understand some view that as mediocre as we should be in the Top 3 more consistently. However, I am not sure how that relates to a possible change. I think a losing season overall or in conference will have to occur next season for a change to be seriously considered. As far as the conference is concerned, the SBC is not low level this year. Last time I looked it is 12th out of over 30 leagues. Granted that is the best it has been in years. It is also one of the few mid major leagues to have it's champion win a game two consecutive years in the NCAA tourney. I understand that some will say anything out of the Top 10 indicates you are in a lower level league.

Not saying Marty's dismissal was wrong, only that he was never given the latitude of Marlin and he had much greater wins, and much better conference results.

Also I am absolutely saying if you are consistently not in the top three you are mediocre.

Not expecting Marlin to be fired, though he should be. I am a voice of reality about how bad he really is. I'm ready to say it now, he will not finish in the top three next year, but anything is possible for three games in March. So all the fans can save their emotions, and enjoyment for a three game run this March or next.

[Cajunsmike]

Not saying Marty's dismissal was wrong, only that he was never given the latitude of Marlin and he had much greater wins, and much better conference results.

Also I am absolutely saying if you are consistently not in the top three you are mediocre.

Not expecting Marlin to be fired, though he should be. I am a voice of reality about how bad he really is. I'm ready to say it now, he will not finish in the top three next year, but anything is possible for three games in March. So all the fans can save their emotions, and enjoyment for a three game run this March or next.

Not being in the Top 3 next year would be disappointing. That includes the coaching staff as they definitely expect to achieve that level.

[Bigbuf]

Cal State Fullerton is #8 and Coastal is #15 in BA, but I get your point. There is a lot more parity in the "non-rev." sports. Augusta State College was NCAA champ in golf 2011 and 2012.

That may have something to do with the ghost of Bobby Jones.

[anhil8tor]

He's been mediocre his entire tenure.

Mediocre? I can't get on board that. He may not be dominating but he isn't mediocre. I pulled our 06/07 season and we were 9-21 as a team... but we did beat Tech. That to me is a mediocre season.

[Tell The Truth]

Most of you people make no sense....if it was a $$$$ thing then how did the almighty Robe go to Omaha 17 years ago and hasn't smelled it since when people are throwing $$$$ at him left and right and under the table...seems to me then he is underachieving on a yearly basis...there is a reason he wasn't considered for the 2 big jobs that came open last season at Texas and Alabama this fall...those people know what is going on here and soon we all will after Big Brother NCAA caomes to town!!!

[VObserver]

Mediocre? I can't get on board that. He may not be dominating but he isn't mediocre. I pulled our 06/07 season and we were 9-21 as a team... but we did beat Tech. That to me is a mediocre season.

No, that is a BAD season. Mediocre is going 17-14 against a schedule that includes 12 games against the little sisters of the poor and the downtown boys club, which is pretty much what Marlin has done every year.