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[ManAboutTown]

Mike, I have a much broader view of how things actually work in this world. The connection between opinions and information expressed on this site, with regards to athletics, is directly correlated to outcomes at this university. The only thing I'll agree with is that no one at the university, or any other university, would or should ever admit that the expressions of fans are driving their decisions. I would even go so far as to say it is their place to deny they react to fans. But in reality, they behave in direct correlation to what fans say, and what fans do. Every... single... time.

To believe T-Joe was acting alone in selecting Alden to review our athletics program... is pure stupidity. He was under immense pressure by people that ARE in the know of some on this site. And he REACTED. He is not a juggernaut of proactive athletics. The last things T-Joe wants to do is "reassign" people. He did so out of necessity. And that necessity was generated by the fan base. Pure and simple.

Now... how does this site reflect the entire fan base? Pretty close to being the ONLY raw data collector at their disposal. The company I'm with conducted an employee survey (administered by a professional employee surveying group). The information collection was designed to be as anonymous as possible. And the results were absolutely dead on with everything that needs to be addressed in our company. Why was it so accurate? Because we had two components a) the passionate employee's participation and b) their anonymity. This site is the best raw data marketing system this university could hope to have for free. To acknowledge it would be foolish. It would destroy the integrity of the information... and it would fuel a "use your own brain... not the collective brains of the fans". But in reality... every single athletic outcome is not just summed up very accurately on this site... it's predicted.

So... if you don't think this site has a great deal to do with the outcomes of athletics... by virtue of being a very pure communication center for RC fan sentiment... you simply do not have a strong handle on what drives consumer markets.

What some on here want to deny is that a couple of very outspoken participants sometimes dominate the narrative. And others just do not want those individuals to dominate. That is taken care of by the anonymity of this site. It self washes. But to deny this is a cauldron of thought that is 100% relevant to the consumer market of RC athletics... is nonsense. At the very minimum it almost perfectly reflects the market. But in reality... it drives it. This site will forever be in perfect alignment to the tickets purchased, RCAF membership numbers, and consumption of RC athletics. Deny or not.

Once again, perfectly said.

The timing of this discussion couldn't be any more appropriate. I have a meeting today at lunch based almost exclusively off of discussions and comments made on this very board.

Like I said, of all people, I'm the wrong one to tell that this board doesn't matter.

[ULvictory]

In general, a message board exists for people to express opinions or ideas. This message board does exactly just that. The opinions and ideas that fans bring to the table here don't always reflect those of our administration; but they carry weight (like J1M said) as a "survey" of the direction people think the program is heading. At the end of the day, most people here are DONORS and SEASON TICKET HOLDERS. These people are pretty much the CUSTOMERS.

Now, does this site have a huge say on the hiring/firing process within the UL administration? I would say most likely not. But there's no doubt in my mind that this site gives the average viewer a "feel" of where fans stand on any particular issue. Take the baseball stadium debacle last year. When news spread of what was going on, people lurking around here were reading the threads and were furious. Well from there, the trickle down effect from the fan base pretty much explains itself.


This is a message board. Fans have the right to express their opinions if they will. Again, they're the CUSTOMER.

[Just1More]

In general, a message board exists for people to express opinions or ideas. This message board does exactly just that. The opinions and ideas that fans bring to the table here don't always reflect those of our administration; but they carry weight (like J1M said) as a "survey" of the direction people think the program is heading. At the end of the day, most people here are DONORS and SEASON TICKET HOLDERS. These people are pretty much the CUSTOMERS.

Now, does this site have a huge say on the hiring/firing process within the UL administration? I would say most likely not. But there's no doubt in my mind that this site gives the average viewer a "feel" of where fans stand on any particular issue. Take the baseball stadium debacle last year. When news spread of what was going on, people lurking around here were reading the threads and were furious. Well from there, the trickle down effect from the fan base pretty much explains itself.


This is a message board. Fans have the right to express their opinions if they will. Again, they're the CUSTOMER.

We can haggle over the gravity of a "message board" all day long. But if this forum isn't one of the key contributors to the "facts on the ground" for UL athletics... then UL is the dumbest athletics organization known to man. If this forum is acknowledged by UL as the predominant source for athletic market analysis... they're equally dumb.

I can accept the public position on the importance this message board plays in shaping athletics program decisions at UL. What I cannot accept is supposed intelligent posters not knowing better.

[Boomer]

We can haggle over the gravity of a "message board" all day long. But if this forum isn't one of the key contributors to the "facts on the ground" for UL athletics... then UL is the dumbest athletics organization known to man. If this forum is acknowledged by UL as the predominant source for athletic market analysis... they're equally dumb.

I can accept the public position on the importance this message board plays in shaping athletics program decisions at UL. What I cannot accept is supposed intelligent posters not knowing better.

-----In talking to a person very much in the know, he sited that these message boards can have a very bad effect on different situations of athletic programs---he mention studies that were done and the area that I was thinking mostly effected was recruiting---the negatives that come on here, surely all would admit, greatly outnumber any positive info and the topics are reinforced quantitatively---that being said, anti UL anybodies take this and run with it in a hyperbole of negatives----Bowl games, coaches pay, coaches decisions, RCAF, staff, AD, Facilities, El Presidente, locker room activities, basketball tourneys, etc----So Boomer at Anti UL University takes the posts on here and adds some small negative tweaking and presents it to a recruit (don't forget that other antis are also in the mix) and it goes into the processing of a decision of matriculation!!! How much I have no idea, but again it goes into the decision making---I won't go into who and what studies but just what I do know---In the old Ben Franklin close by juxtaposition we are clearly the winner but you would never know it reading some RP stuff!!!

[ManAboutTown]

We can haggle over the gravity of a "message board" all day long. But if this forum isn't one of the key contributors to the "facts on the ground" for UL athletics... then UL is the dumbest athletics organization known to man. If this forum is acknowledged by UL as the predominant source for athletic market analysis... they're equally dumb.

I can accept the public position on the importance this message board plays in shaping athletics program decisions at UL. What I cannot accept is supposed intelligent posters not knowing better.

Agreed on both accounts. My issue with Metry is that he gives off the persona that lends to speaking for or as the admin. And he's not. He's a supporter like the rest of us.

IMO, when he posts that way, he incorrectly
impacts (or tries to) the symbiotic relationship.

[Ragin4U]

Glad we don't take ourselves too seriously here. Whew.

[ManAboutTown]

-In talking to a person very much in the know, he sited that these message boards can have a very bad effect on different situations of athletic programs---he mention studies that were done and the area that I was thinking mostly effected was recruiting---the negatives that come on here, surely all would admit, greatly outnumber any positive info and the topics are reinforced quantitatively---that being said, anti UL anybodies take this and run with it in a hyperbole of negatives

Bowl games, coaches pay, coaches decisions, RCAF, staff, AD, Facilities, El Presidente, locker room activities, basketball tourneys, etc

So Boomer at Anti UL University takes the posts on here and adds some small negative tweaking and presents it to a recruit (don't forget that other antis are also in the mix) and it goes into the processing of a decision of matriculation!!! How much I have no idea, but again it goes into the decision making---I won't go into who and what studies but just what I do know---In the old Ben Franklin close by juxtaposition we are clearly the winner but you would never know it reading some RP stuff!!!

So you're telling me.. Comments on a fanboard directly effect recruiting? 4-8 seasons, players telling recruits not to come here and NCAA sanctions be damned... Its those malcontents on RP!! C'mon Boomer..

[ManAboutTown]

Glad we don't take ourselves too seriously here. Whew.

Passive aggressive poster is passive aggressive. Nice contribution..

[ULvictory]

If that were the case, then the school to the east wouldn't be in the top 15 in recruiting every year with all the negative jargon that goes on with tigerdroppings.

[Ragin4U]

Passive aggressive poster is passive aggressive. Nice contribution..

So you're telling me.. Comments on a fanboard directly effect recruiting? 4-8 seasons, players telling recruits not to come here and NCAA sanctions be damned... Its those malcontents on RP!! C'mon Boomer..

The post was pretty transparent. Aggressive-aggressive, if you will.

The RP Effect works one way but not the other? Interesting.