Bowl Game Shuts Down

[CajunEXPRESS]

Some people criticized the Cajun basketball program for playing in the CIT last year. They did this even after I pointed out the players wanted to continue. A very fair response was that they were a veteran team that maybe did not "deserve" to be in post season play despite their desire to do so. When you have a young team, playing more games can help for the future. That was not so much the case last year. That ties to my next point. I also think there are too many bowl games. That is not because I am being forced to watch. My view is too many teams that don't "deserve" to be in post season football games get to do so now. Any P5 school with a 6 and 6 record which got to play a few rent a win games at home is very questionable as being deserving of post season play. There have been quite a few of those recently. I bet you will see the no. of minor bowl games continue to drop and suspect it will end up around 30 in a few years. I think the no. was 40 last year.

Mike basketball isn't football. Every team in division one basketball has the opportunity to bring home a trophy naming them national champs. There's another thirty two teams, I believe, with a chance at the historic NIT trophy. None of that exists in football. That's a closed fraternity.

So while the kids get extra practice and games it's really about supplementing the mediocre basketball coaches. The players should get the games, the coaches records good or bad shouldn't be reflected. Not for career numbers or contract enhancements.

[wcd35]

did all networks have the opportunity to bid on all bowl games individually then if NCAA was not involved whatsoever?

ESPN owns and operates a bunch of the bowls. I don't know how other bowls work out their broadcasting rights contracts

[31Ragin97]

how about if they gave the extra practices to the teams that don't make postseason..... a compromise? more teams wouldn't need the bowl or tourney just for that reason then... could result in less bowls/ less postseason and everyone is happy...... plus it seems a team that isn't as good needs the practices more than ones that are going to postseason.

plus did the college football playoff teams also get just the 15 or did they get more for the second round, plus school was not in session, so usually can go past 20 hours when that is the case.

[cajunhawk]

Meh, A bowl game is a business venture. It may not be for profit per se, but the idea is to promote tourism plus the sponsor’s business. When it does not accomplish these goals, it will probably shut down. I do not understand how the New Orleans Bowl promotes R.L. Carriers though, but I guess it must.

Simple solution...bar Bowl Games from Not-for-profit status. The profitable ones will survive...the ones using Not-for-profit status as a tax shelter will die on the vine.

[31Ragin97]

ESPN owns and operates a bunch of the bowls. I don't know how other bowls work out their broadcasting rights contracts

exactly, so they then decide the times, hmmm..... id like to see if the other network's bids were fairly considered, lol.

[Cajunsmike]

Mike basketball isn't football. Every team in division one basketball has the opportunity to bring home a trophy naming them national champs. There's another thirty two teams, I believe, with a chance at the historic NIT trophy. None of that exists in football. That's a closed fraternity.

So while the kids get extra practice and games it's really about supplementing the mediocre basketball coaches. The players should get the games, the coaches records good or bad shouldn't be reflected. Not for career numbers or contract enhancements.

I would be ok with not having CIT games count on coaches records. That is not my point. There are some football teams that do not deserve bowl games which get to do so due to number of them. Roughly 60 percent of FBS schools play in bowls while the number of D1 basketball teams on post season play counting the pay tournaments gives a percentage of roughly 45. Both sports have teams that do not deserve post season play do so. As i said earlier, football number may drop as finances will force more bowl games to be canceled. Disney is not happy with ESPN performance and that may impact the situation.

[Ragin4U]

Mike basketball isn't football. Every team in division one basketball has the opportunity to bring home a trophy naming them national champs. There's another thirty two teams, I believe, with a chance at the historic NIT trophy. None of that exists in football. That's a closed fraternity.

So while the kids get extra practice and games it's really about supplementing the mediocre basketball coaches. The players should get the games, the coaches records good or bad shouldn't be reflected. Not for career numbers or contract enhancements.

Not everything is a pro-Marlin conspiracy.
Why shouldn't a coach get credit for a win?

I also don't have a problem with bowl games. If the teams want to participate and they see a benefit, what is the problem?

[CajunDreDog]

NCAA needs to also allow a bowl game to decide what time and date they want to play. if a tv network doesn't want to show it at that time, then so be it. should that factor in their decision-- of course, but should not be only factor.... should still be decided by the bowl itself.

Espn owns most of the bowl games, so that ain't gonna happen.

[Oiler]

Not everything is a pro-Marlin conspiracy.
Why shouldn't a coach get credit for a win?

I also don't have a problem with bowl games. If the teams want to participate and they see a benefit, what is the problem?

I agree 100%. If the participating teams want to play in them, then the bowls are worth playing. The Poinsettia Bowl's going out of business is not a good thing for any G5 conference member. You can rest assured that the end of this bowl will result in two less G5 teams getting to participate in post season play next year.

[cajunhawk]

I agree 100%. If the participating teams want to play in them, then the bowls are worth playing. The Poinsettia Bowl's going out of business is not a good thing for any G5 conference member. You can rest assured that the end of this bowl will result in two less G5 teams getting to participate in post season play next year.

It's holding most universities up at gunpoint for guaranteed ticket sales to force profit to not-for-profit bowls. That should turn anyone from "pro"-bowls to "why the ____ are we allowing this ____ to happen"-bowls.

[CajunEXPRESS]

I would be ok with not having CIT games count on coaches records. That is not my point. There are some football teams that do not deserve bowl games which get to do so due to number of them. Roughly 60 percent of FBS schools play in bowls while the number of D1 basketball teams on post season play counting the pay tournaments gives a percentage of roughly 45. Both sports have teams that do not deserve post season play do so. As i said earlier, football number may drop as finances will force more bowl games to be canceled. Disney is not happy with ESPN performance and that may impact the situation.

100% of NCAA eligible schools participate in the playoff process. You win your conference regular season championship or the tournament and you're in. The football side has never had anything approaching this in FBS.

Frankly I've got a bigger problem with the bowl whiners than participants. As long as the FBS world is a popularity contest we need all bowls. Their financial success is on their committees.

[Ragin4U]

It's holding most universities up at gunpoint for guaranteed ticket sales to force profit to not-for-profit bowls. That should turn anyone from "pro"-bowls to "why the ____ are we allowing this ____ to happen"-bowls.

Bowls are forcing schools to accept bowl bids?