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  1. UL Basketball Re: Louisiana vs ULM

    Quote Originally Posted by jllanclos View Post
    In all fairness, how many regular NBA starters has this program put out before Marlin? And Shawn Long is literally destroying the entire D-League right now.

    Sure, he had some misses. Can we pause on all that ____ing and enjoy the ride? We really like ____ing in our Cheerios. LOL
    Nobody thought EP would be a lottery pick when signed. Marlin was impressed with his ability at such a young age. Coach Marlin used his contracts to position EP in important international competition.

    Long was a good get, but he wanted to be near his family. UL was the logical place for him. He was a reluctant student, and Marlin and staff really worked hard to keep him qualified.

    So Marlin got lucky by circumstances in both these guys. One by youth, and the other by geography. So what? Jesse Evans gets Michael Southal by a chance encounter in an airport.

    They're in charge and get both blame and glory. Good for coach Marlin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jllanclos View Post
    In all fairness, how many regular NBA starters has this program put out before Marlin? And Shawn Long is literally destroying the entire D-League right now.

    Sure, he had some misses. Can we pause on all that ____ing and enjoy the ride? We really like ____ing in our Cheerios. LOL
    I in the middle on Marlin so far, but having the most NBA players on your college team without high levels of success could be a knock, not a success. JMO

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    Stop with the BS that Marlin got "lucky" with those two players. No one recruited Elfrid and Marlin saw something in him when he was a junior. EP is the hardest working player I have watched.(Bryce is stepping up big time.) But do you think Marlin could have used is "connections" if Elfrid was good enough to be on those teams? Not only make the team but to start every game for team USA?
    As for Shawn he has said on multiple accounts that UL was his first choice and listened to some people that he should not have listened to. Shawn developed as a player because of the coaches we have here and they should get credit for it.
    I suppose next Marlin got lucky on Bartley coming here along with the 3 transfers this year. If you do not think college basketball is about building relationships and using them to your advantage you are a fool.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MelRock View Post
    Stop with the BS that Marlin got "lucky" with those two players. No one recruited Elfrid and Marlin saw something in him when he was a junior. EP is the hardest working player I have watched.(Bryce is stepping up big time.) But do you think Marlin could have used is "connections" if Elfrid was good enough to be on those teams? Not only make the team but to start every game for team USA?
    As for Shawn he has said on multiple accounts that UL was his first choice and listened to some people that he should not have listened to. Shawn developed as a player because of the coaches we have here and they should get credit for it.
    I suppose next Marlin got lucky on Bartley coming here along with the 3 transfers this year. If you do not think college basketball is about building relationships and using them to your advantage you are a fool.
    Thank you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MelRock View Post
    Stop with the BS that Marlin got "lucky" with those two players. No one recruited Elfrid and Marlin saw something in him when he was a junior. EP is the hardest working player I have watched.(Bryce is stepping up big time.) But do you think Marlin could have used is "connections" if Elfrid was good enough to be on those teams? Not only make the team but to start every game for team USA?
    As for Shawn he has said on multiple accounts that UL was his first choice and listened to some people that he should not have listened to. Shawn developed as a player because of the coaches we have here and they should get credit for it.
    I suppose next Marlin got lucky on Bartley coming here along with the 3 transfers this year. If you do not think college basketball is about building relationships and using them to your advantage you are a fool.
    He didn't get lucky getting those guys, he got them and should get credit...unfortunately he missed on too many others to do something special with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hark Mudspeth View Post
    He didn't get lucky getting those guys, he got them and should get credit...unfortunately he missed on too many others to do something special with them.
    I can't argue with that either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hark Mudspeth View Post
    You sound like a broken record, we have a long way to go...you have been Bob's biggest defender no matter the situation. You are too close to the program to not take this personal and it shows. Nothing wrong with that, I've seen several people eat their crow on here...that should be good enough for you.
    If you go back and see some of my posts in previous years, you will see that I have also been critical of recruiting in the past. I never thought we should have bought Tyrone Wooten in and I had questions about Luka Kamber. I believed things changed when Bryce Washington came in as he was an underrated player and recruiting has been improving sense then. I have said the staff was getting what they could from the talent they had. Some would say last year would be an exception and I agree with that as they probably underachieved. I don't think people realize the limitations last year's squad had defensively. I have not been as upset with the scheduling as some as I just don't think folks realize how difficult it is to get people to come to our place in home and home situations and we don't have money to pay folks to come here. I would agree an effort to raise money for this would be worthwhile. I also think we should play an additional money game vs two non D1 games. Go back to what I said this summer as a projection for this year. I never said we would do well. I simply said that with so many new guys it was impossible to predict how they would do, good or bad. Others were simply assuming it would be a tough year. Again, someone asked to give examples of when people were wrong and I simply responded to that request. Yes, some people have eaten crow but I may not have noticed it as much as I probably should have. I still don't think the guy who said we were the worst team in the state has eaten any. As far as being close to the program, most in the Rebounders club naturally are. Very few posts however. Most support the program strongly for off the court reasons. Good kids are generally brought in and they are encouraged to do well in the classroom. Like everything else in life, there are positives and negatives in everything. I have pointed out concerns in the past and will continue to do so. I simply think there are more positives in the basketball program at this stage. One thing I do agree with is that the team still has a long way to go. We need to get Bartley going again, not let teams like ULM control tempo, be more consistent at the free throw line, and keep playing defense like in the last two games. We are far from being a finished product and must continue to improve to meet potential.

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    Ok.. I see the argument here.. but what has been our past coaches records on hits and misses?


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    Quote Originally Posted by anhil8tor View Post
    Ok.. I see the argument here.. but what has been our past coaches records on hits and misses?
    Only one record matters and he hasn't been very good at that overall either.

  10. UL Basketball Re: Louisiana vs ULM

    Quote Originally Posted by MelRock View Post
    Stop with the BS that Marlin got "lucky" with those two players. No one recruited Elfrid and Marlin saw something in him when he was a junior. EP is the hardest working player I have watched.(Bryce is stepping up big time.) But do you think Marlin could have used is "connections" if Elfrid was good enough to be on those teams? Not only make the team but to start every game for team USA?
    As for Shawn he has said on multiple accounts that UL was his first choice and listened to some people that he should not have listened to. Shawn developed as a player because of the coaches we have here and they should get credit for it.
    I suppose next Marlin got lucky on Bartley coming here along with the 3 transfers this year. If you do not think college basketball is about building relationships and using them to your advantage you are a fool.
    There's nothing wrong with being lucky from time to time. I thought Jesse was a great recruiter, and he got lucky with Southal. Shipley got lucky with Lamar who he discovered on a recruiting trip for another player. He got Ivory because Ivory wanted to integrate a deep south team.

    We have gotten lots of players under a lucky star. There's nothing wrong with a coach cashing in on luck.

    I'm sorry you thought I was belittling EP by bolstering Marlin for using his contacts and basketball savvy to get him the opportunities. There were multiple articles about Marlins important role in getting him those opportunities.

    No matter what Long said he left Moo State to be near his family. I'm assuming his coach wouldn't approve an LSU transfer. That pretty much leaves us competing with Southetn, UNO (dropping from div 1),Lamers, Nicholas, BrokeBack U to be near his family. In effect the only potential suitor worthy of Long would us and TooLame. So that's not a world of choices.

    And yes, until his senior year there was constant concern he'd chunck it all and go home. Gave Marlin a lot of credit for keeping Sean focused in spite of people trying to get him to quit.

    So in the end Marlin was fortunate that many important basketball programs ignored EP age and class designation much like McGuire. He was fortunate Long realized he made a mistake leaving his family so far away. He took advantage of good fortune and really was a big part in the success of both these players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunAmos View Post
    I in the middle on Marlin so far, but having the most NBA players on your college team without high levels of success could be a knock, not a success. JMO
    Good point.

    Before this season, I was feeling pretty down about Marlin too. Felt "above average" was ok with him.

    Hope that's not the case. I'm not okay with settling for above average.

    Maybe Marlin and Hud both have a fire lit under them by the uncertainty of AD and the willingness to take athletics seriously that T-Joe has shown.

    It's time for next level thinking. The kind of thinking that possessed Tony Robichaux to walk into a job interview and say "Here's what I need you to provide me with to win the national championship here."

    Absolutely no reason we shouldn't be knocking on the door of the NY6 every year, or in multiple sweet 16's.

    Bout time we started acting like it.

    Rant over (maybe).

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    Quote Originally Posted by charliek View Post
    Jeez half that thread was boomer describing how he invented basketball by nailing two peach baskets to the rafters or something.
    Is that also Boomer doing the Dr. Pepper commercials? Cause he invented the college playoffs!

    Go Boomer!

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