Cajuns Win A Wild One Over The Red Wolves On Senior Day

[Boomer]

Staff member told me it was a lateral. Therefore had he thrown the ball before being down, it would have been a TD. When I asked if they were confident the QB was down while waiting on replay, his response was they were praying too hard to be confident.

-Damn Mike --now that is just the opposite of what ATX posted as the complete rule---Help!!!

[CharlieK]

Still have not gotten it right. The correct call was to blow the whistle, or at least declare a dead ball after the fact, when the OL when a player other than the fumbler attempted to advance the ball.

Rule 4-1-3 Ball declared dead
A live ball becomes dead and an official shall sound his whistle or declare it dead:
(j) when, before a change of team possession on fourth down or a try, a Team A fumble is caught or recovered by a Team A player other than the fumbler.

Rule 7-2-2-a Caught or Recovered
When a backward pass or fumble is caught or recovered by any inbounds player, the ball continues in play.
Exception 2
On fourth down before a change of team possession, when a Team A fumble is caught or recovered by a Team A player other than the fumbler, the ball is dead. If the catch or recovery is beyond the spot of the fumble, the ball is returned to the spot of the fumble.

In the replay it was clearly an attempted lateral, not a fumble. And he was clearly down before he got the ball out.

[Cajunsmike]

In the replay it was clearly an attempted lateral, not a fumble. And he was clearly down before he got the ball out.

To summarize, a lateral is legal in that instance while an intentional fumble is not.

[Boomer]

In the replay it was clearly an attempted lateral, not a fumble. And he was clearly down before he got the ball out.

---The fact that he was down makes the point moot---but what if he hadn't been down---what would have been the ruling??? it has been said that when the lineman picked it up it was a dead ball even if he wasn't down before the back pass!!!

[IberiaCajun]

It wasn't a dead ball because the refs never blew the whistle until he reached the goal line.

[ATXCajun]

Ok I THINK I sorted this out. A pass never directly results in a fumble. In this case, the backward pass not caught was simply a live ball on the ground and could be advanced by rule.

Fumble
ARTICLE 1. To fumble the ball is to lose player possession by any act other than passing, kicking or successful handing (A.R. 2-19-2-I and A.R. 4-1-3- I). The status of the ball is a fumble.

Also, the word "lateral" only appears twice in the NCAA rule book. It refers to the lateral movement of OLs and punters.

Anyway, I stand corrected and educated. Apologies for the confusion.

[CayenneFan69]

Who cares the games over we won

[ulXrunner]

Ok I THINK I sorted this out. A pass never directly results in a fumble. In this case, the backward pass not caught was simply a live ball on the ground and could be advanced by rule.

Fumble
ARTICLE 1. To fumble the ball is to lose player possession by any act other than passing, kicking or successful handing (A.R. 2-19-2-I and A.R. 4-1-3- I). The status of the ball is a fumble.

Also, the word "lateral" only appears twice in the NCAA rule book. It refers to the lateral movement of OLs and punters.

Anyway, I stand corrected and educated. Apologies for the confusion.

No apology needed. Thanks for educating me on this. I'm happy for the W, but was intrigue to know the rule.

[KajunKrazy]

Still have not gotten it right. The correct call was to blow the whistle, or at least declare a dead ball after the fact, when the OL when a player other than the fumbler attempted to advance the ball.

Rule 4-1-3 Ball declared dead
A live ball becomes dead and an official shall sound his whistle or declare it dead:
(j) when, before a change of team possession on fourth down or a try, a Team A fumble is caught or recovered by a Team A player other than the fumbler.

Rule 7-2-2-a Caught or Recovered
When a backward pass or fumble is caught or recovered by any inbounds player, the ball continues in play.
Exception 2
On fourth down before a change of team possession, when a Team A fumble is caught or recovered by a Team A player other than the fumbler, the ball is dead. If the catch or recovery is beyond the spot of the fumble, the ball is returned to the spot of the fumble.

The refs declared it a backwards pass on the field. Can any one pick up a backwards pass?

[sportsfanatic21]

Yes