RCAF looks at effect of profane video

[CajunEXPRESS]

Yeah, that is what I heard, he would not have had to apologize for the spin Rebel put out.

[CajunJack55]

Yeah, that is what I heard, he would not have had to apologize for the spin Rebel put out.

It was a dumb comment from Hud, you dont bite the hand that feeds you, but not as outrageous as a lot of people are making it out to be. Just my opinion.

[CajunEXPRESS]

It was a dumb comment from Hud, but not as outrageous as a lot of people are making it out to be. Just my opinion.

Not dumb? In an interview you insult 90% of your supporters for no reason. That is about as dumb as you get.

[CajunJack55]

Not dumb? In an interview you insult 90% of your supporters for no reason. That is about as dumb as you get.

I said it was dumb

[CajunEXPRESS]

Right you did. You said not as outrageous I misquoted you.

[CajunRebel]

GEAUX, is everything practical, is ethics nowheres?

Freedom of speech is not universal. You are limited at work, in class, and yes maybe even in the locker room. As a counterpoint, the US supreme court and the Civil Liberties Union have strongly limited prayers in class, at schools, and in locker rooms because it 'may' be a burden on atheists, and non christians. This song is political regardless of how you look at it, and to allow it may be a burden to Trump supporters on the team.

Me, personally, think it is not a big deal in the locker room, nor are prayers, but to be consistent if you severely limit and ban one you must do the other. In some things expediency or profit cannot be the the sole measure.

People quick to limit things should remember more freedom is usually better, and the sword swings and cuts both ways. The best thing for this whole thing is to forget it, but Hud should teach these young men that tolerance and consideration of others in a group setting is very important.

As for Hud? He gets no pass from me, a man his age should and could have deflected that question without insulting the people who contribute to his salary, and the players comforts. In saying that, I am not calling for his head, only that his sin is forgivable when he truly recants and I doubt he has because we have a book on Hud.

First of all, prayer by students is not strongly limited in public schools. There are no limits placed on student prayer unless they become disruptive. For example, a Muslim student can pray silently in school at any time. However, a Native American student can't stand up in the middle of a biology lesson and start rain dancing in the middle of class. The fact that a prayer may or may not burden an atheist has nothing to do with anything.

The type of prayer that is banned in public schools is school-sponsored prayer, and it is banned because it violates the establishment clause. There are three criteria that are used to determine whether religious criteria is constitutional or not:

- It must have a secular purpose;
- It must neither advance nor inhibit religion
- It must not result in an excessive entanglement between government and religion.

I also think it is worth noting that most of these challenges to state-sponsored school prayer came from CATHOLIC and Mormon families who didn't want the state teaching their kids a different religion from theirs. If your kid went to school in Utah, or went to school in a heavily populated jewish or muslim area, I think you would start to appreciate the establishment clause a little more.

Second, political speech is the most protected form of speech we have, and rightfully so. There are almost no limits to what you can say when you are talking about politics. And again, what few limits there are are not there because someone somewhere might get offended. You have no right to not be offended in this country. I'm not a lawyer, but even if Coach Hud wanted to discipline these kids, as a public employee, he probably still couldn't do so without opening UL up to a slam dunk civil rights lawsuit.

Third, I do agree with you that Hud should have a discussion with them about having consideration for others. I feel like our fan base would also benefit from such a discussion.

[CajunRebel]

You got a quote on what he said? I don't think that is what has been quoted coming out of his mouth.

“It’s also disappointing that so many people have vilified a few 19-year-olds making some immature decisions, and then they were the same ones that voted for someone that has done much worse by grabbing a female in the private areas for the office of the (President of the) United States of America.”

[KajunKrazy]

That's not anywhere close to what he said.

Please don't tell me what I read. He said "some of the same people vilifying these 19 year olds voted for trump who grabbed women's private they are hypocrites."

What he is not taking into account is trumps opponent is the biggest crook to ever seek the position and should be in jail. All the "hypocrites" that voted for trump didn't really have much of another choice.

[duggie85]

Third, I do agree with you that Hud should have a discussion with them about having consideration for others. I feel like our fan base would also benefit from such a discussion.

This should happen after Coach Robichaux teaches Hudspeth how to be a professional.

[Frenchie35]

Apples (Trump) and Oranges (UL players)......my question, what discipline did Hud issue to the four players. He said he took care of it. In what way. Are is that to much to ask? Harris also is trying to sugar coat this with his comments on the DA today. Our emotions got the best of us...I guess all of this is in the silent stage also.

[duggie85]

I think Trump would be the Orange.

[Just1More]

It was a dumb comment from Hud, you dont bite the hand that feeds you, but not as outrageous as a lot of people are making it out to be. Just my opinion.

Jack, I'm upset that I instantly knew how it would outrage people. There's a seriousness at several levels. Some people are disgusted over the behavior itself. Some people were disgusted that it was video'd and leaked to the public. Some people were disgusted over Hud defending it in the terms he chose. But in no case am I mad at anyone that is upset about any of the prior mentioned issues.

Why are the fan reactions being questioned? Seriously? I knew instantly that this would infuriate some fans I know. THAT is what upsets me. I know people that do give and support the university that I believe are walking away from it. I know others that I'd like to see return to the fold... and this is probably going to eliminate them. They are entitled to feel the way they do... and to do with their money and time whatever they choose. I'm disgusted by this. We never can have anything worth a damn at UL without knotheads messing things up.

And for anyone that thinks losing RCAF members and money is "replaceable". You are a moron. With money... we'll attract ample athletes. Without it... we're screwed. Think otherwise and stay in a dumb dark place the rest of your life.

If this does not start taking the tone of pure contrition on the part of UL... and all surrogates of UL... we're going to pay a heavier price. It's not even in question. Some of the classiest existing long term financial supporters of our university have spoken up. And if you tell them they are "over reacting"... and that "we don't need them anymore"... you need to think again.