Is running back McGuire UL's greatest offensive player?

[Hark Mudspeth]

You are picking first for your all time UL football team. You have the very first pick. Who do you pick?

I take Brian Mitchell. And if you don't, I smile and take him second.

Is HUD the coach? Bustle? Stokley? HUD might put Mitchell at guard.

[CajunEXPRESS]

No excuses, just don't care that you are ensuating that McGuire isn't tough. What's harder? to play healthy or play hurt? There is never anyway to accurately compare different eras, coaches, systems etc. You Gabe no way of knowing how they would perform if they swapped places. They are both incredible athletes, both tough and play different positions. It's funny though that the new guy is never as good as the guy from back in the day...never in any discussion no matter who is being discussed or discussing it.

I didn't mention the Prophets injuries until you or someone brought it up as a defense. Then you blame Hud for his injuries this year by running him multiple times into the teeth of the defense. He got injured on a breakaway touchdown vs the Lamers this year, not a charge into the middle of the line.

Actually I seem to recall he came to UL injured, and we repaired him after his sophomore season.

You really have no idea what Mitchell did, the teams he beat, and how competitive hie lead the Cajuns to be with P5, and premier G5 teams. Don't give me another era BS. Again to say Mitchell is the UL GOAT takes away nothing from the Prophet, Fenroy,or the great Jake Delhome.

[Just1More]

No excuses, just don't care that you are ensuating that McGuire isn't tough. What's harder? to play healthy or play hurt? There is never anyway to accurately compare different eras, coaches, systems etc. You Gabe no way of knowing how they would perform if they swapped places. They are both incredible athletes, both tough and play different positions. It's funny though that the new guy is never as good as the guy from back in the day...never in any discussion no matter who is being discussed or discussing it.

Nonsense. Do you know how many great athletes played here? Nothing is being taken away from Eli by crediting Brian Mitchell. Brian is by a very long shot the greatest football player to ever play at UL. If you weren't around to see him... as an adult... you have no opinion to give in this. He would have been an SEC RB. He wanted to be a college QB. He plays QB his entire college football career... setting the combined rushing/passing record of all time... in years we played the hardest schedules we've ever played. He then goes on to be drafted as a RB in the NFL. He owns numerous NFL records. No one can ever say enough about how great he was. He even covered NFL kick offs and punts, was the first man downfield, and literally knocked kickoff returners out. He was regarded by the Redskins head coach to be the most valuable player he ever coached. Eli is a great athlete... but he is way behind Brian in the body of work to even discuss this topic. The "tough stuff" earlier shouldn't be argued. But if you saw Brian, you'd know he was the man of steel... among the men of steel.

[Hark Mudspeth]

I didn't mention the Prophets injuries until you or someone brought it up as a defense. Then you blame Hud for his injuries this year by running him multiple times into the teeth of the defense. He got injured on a breakaway touchdown vs the Lamers this year, not a charge into the middle of the line.

Actually I seem to recall he came to UL injured, and we repaired him after his sophomore season.

You really have no idea what Mitchell did, the teams he beat, and how competitive hie lead the Cajuns to be with P5, and premier G5 teams. Don't give me another era BS. Again to say Mitchell is the UL GOAT takes away nothing from the Prophet, Fenroy,or the great Jake Delhome.

Staying healthy cannot be overvalued? Who said that? And how many games has he missed through all the injuries

[Hark Mudspeth]

Nonsense. Do you know how many great athletes played here? Nothing is being taken away from Eli by crediting Brian Mitchell. Brian is by a very long shot the greatest football player to ever play at UL. If you weren't around to see him... as an adult... you have no opinion to give in this. He would have been an SEC RB. He wanted to be a college QB. He plays QB his entire college football career... setting the combined rushing/passing record of all time... in years we played the hardest schedules we've ever played. He then goes on to be drafted as a RB in the NFL. He owns numerous NFL records. No one can ever say enough about how great he was. He even covered NFL kick offs and punts, was the first man downfield, and literally knocked kickoff returners out. He was regarded by the Redskins head coach to be the most valuable player he ever coached. Eli is a great athlete... but he is way behind Brian in the body of work to even discuss this topic. The "tough stuff" earlier shouldn't be argued. But if you saw Brian, you'd know he was the man of steel... among the men of steel.

honestly, read the sequence of post again and see what I was saying. Or anywhere that I said anyone was better than anyone. I wasn't the one who brought up staying healthy... the person that did has hundreds of post about HUD using Eli wrong but now he doesn't remember that.

[CajunEXPRESS]

Staying healthy cannot be overvalued? Who said that? And how many games has he missed through all the injuries

That's an answer to Crawfish who should know better than his comments.

Prophet missed two and for all basic purposes three this year. He was also slowed in his sophomore season due to ongoing problems from a high school injury that we fixed before the start of 2015.

So three games, and less than full speed his sophomore year where he still did outstanding things.

You're excused from class as you missed out on professor Mitchell lectures.

[Cajunsmike]

I didn't mention the Prophets injuries until you or someone brought it up as a defense. Then you blame Hud for his injuries this year by running him multiple times into the teeth of the defense. He got injured on a breakaway touchdown vs the Lamers this year, not a charge into the middle of the line.

Actually I seem to recall he came to UL injured, and we repaired him after his sophomore season.

You really have no idea what Mitchell did, the teams he beat, and how competitive hie lead the Cajuns to be with P5, and premier G5 teams. Don't give me another era BS. Again to say Mitchell is the UL GOAT takes away nothing from the Prophet, Fenroy,or the great Jake Delhome.

Eli was healthy his first two years here. He did have some problems last year but they have been more pronounced this year. I agree Brian Mitchell is the greatest cajun offensive player i have seen as a cajun.

[Hark Mudspeth]

That's an answer to Crawfish who should know better than his comments.

Prophet missed two and for all basic purposes three this year. He was also slowed in his sophomore season due to ongoing problems from a high school injury that we fixed before the start of 2015.

So three games, and less than full speed his sophomore year where he still did outstanding things.

You're excused from class as you missed out on professor Mitchell lectures.

Slowed his sophomore season? When he was SBC offensive player of the year, player of the year and LSWA player of the year? I guess good thing for everyone else he was "slowed"

[Big Buds]

If the Eli of '13 & '14 was putting up the those same type of numbers over the past year and a half this would be a legitimate enough discussion...with that being said it is B. Mitch without a doubt.

[Turbine]

I lean towards Mitchell but I can't be sure.

The scripted use of McGuire makes me give him extra cred.

You can't judge or compare the athleticism of a running quarterback and a pure running back.

A running QB gets to take advantage of the element of surprise.

All you have to do is study Brian Mitchell's last 3 plays as a pro to understand what I am talking about.

[Hark Mudspeth]

I lean towards Mitchell but I can't be sure.

The scripted use of McGuire makes me give him extra cred.

You can't judge or compare the athleticism of a running quarterback and a pure running back.

A running QB gets to take advantage of the element of surprise.

All you have to do is study Brian Mitchell's last 3 plays as a pro to understand what I am talking about.

And also why I bring up Era...no way to know what Eli could have done back then or now as a QB...you know his actual high school position that he lead the state in rushing at.

[Boomer]

And also why I bring up Era...no way to know what Eli could have done back then or now as a QB...you know his actual high school position that he lead the state in rushing at.

---------juxtaposition the 2 and I don't know the faster-----McGuire is more elusive and Mitchell had more power in his running----Mitchell threw passes and McGuire is as good of a receiver as I have ever seen at UL!!!