2018 non conference

[Hark Mudspeth]

Once again, money is not the reason for maximizing our P5 games. That is an added benefit, but if your outlook is that all P5 games are just for whoring purposes, then the sad fact is you will never accomplish the goal of program advancement because you misunderstand how respect is earned in college football.

By the way, since Coach Hud has been here, our schedule strengths have never been lower since the split back in 1982, and our non-conference G5, regular season record stands at 3 wins and 6 losses.

Even if we fail to schedule Rice, Houston, SMU, Tech, Tulane or USM(whom I would schedule for recruiting purposes), and those 9 games had been replaced by P5 schools, we would be looking at 3 more losses total over the same time frame. We probably would have won at least one of them on top of that.

OMG, the humanity.....

I didn't bring up money, you did. Respect is not earned by getting crushed by anyone, you build a winner which allows you to recruit the athletes you need to then schedule P5 and compete or win. What kind if players you think you are gonna get when they see you lose 140+ to 20 over the course of 3 P5 games and finish 6-6 or 7-5? Georgia southern, app state, ndsu all dominated their level of competition for years, which turned them into dominant programs...and then they got players that allowed them to compete with the big boys. You will never get those players by just scheduling...you have to produce. Under HUD nothing tells me otherwise that if he had played 6 more P5's that he would have won..more likely we would have 1 or 2 moral victories and 4 'more face crushings. Please show me any school that your model has worked for? At least I have examples. Players like to win, fans like to win. As "soft" as any schedule we could have, you don't think our program would benefit from going 11-1? More than going 6-6 or 7-5 with a ULM schedule? You have to build a program, not a team...a program.

[Alum78]

1.25 mill is not worth the beating we are going to take at Bama. WTF Farmer?

Yes it is.

[CajunT]

Once again, money is not the reason for maximizing our P5 games. That is an added benefit, but if your outlook is that all P5 games are just for whoring purposes, then the sad fact is you will never accomplish the goal of program advancement because you misunderstand how respect is earned in college football.

By the way, since Coach Hud has been here, our schedule strengths have never been lower since the split back in 1982, and our non-conference G5, regular season record stands at 3 wins and 6 losses.

Even if we fail to schedule Rice, Houston, SMU, Tech, Tulane or USM(whom I would schedule for recruiting purposes), and those 9 games had been replaced by P5 schools, we would be looking at 3 more losses total over the same time frame. We probably would have won at least one of them on top of that.

OMG, the humanity.....

Maximizing your P5 games isn't defined by playing just any P5 program, you don't garner much in defeating Kansas, Rutgers, Indiana or Iowa St. And playing three road games a year at P5's is whoring your program out because any P5 program will pay you to come to their home stadium anytime. You earn national respect by defeating ranked teams and top G5 program.

[31Ragin97]

Will this be a penalty by 2018 since it apparently isnt in 2016..... Or at least unnecessary roughness if not targeting??

[cajunhawk]

What?

Go back and look at the history of realignment for G5 schools.

Perception kept us out of the original CUSA group. The comment to Doc A was, "I just can't sell SW LA to our season ticket holders".

We told the WAC no.

Realignment was happening above our level all this time between P5 leagues that killed the Big East and created the MWC and later the AAC. All of that was based on MONEY with a focus on budget.

Then CUSA reloaded and expanded. All of that was based on MONEY with a focus on TV numbers.

Show me where realignment was based on number of wins.

Show me poorly performing in conference programs who had high or medium profile P5 wins that have progressed up the ladder. And you can't use La Tech as an example, because remember they were the only appealing rat left on the WAC sinking ship.

[cajunhawk]

Maximizing your P5 games isn't defined by playing just any P5 program, you don't garner much in defeating Kansas, Rutgers, Indiana or Iowa St. And playing three road games a year at P5's is whoring your program out because any P5 program will pay you to come to their home stadium anytime. You earn national respect by defeating ranked teams and top G5 program.

And dominating the world around you. If you can't do that...defeating ranked teams an top G5 means nothing.

[CajunNation]

Maximizing your P5 games isn't defined by playing just any P5 program, you don't garner much in defeating Kansas, Rutgers, Indiana or Iowa St. And playing three road games a year at P5's is whoring your program out because any P5 program will pay you to come to their home stadium anytime.

I never said play 3 road games every year for the most money. That is what poor schools do. We can be smart about it. First, I said we should always try to get games with Rice, Houston, SMU, Tech, Tulane and USM for recruiting purposes. You conveniently ignore that. When that is not possible, that game should be a P5, not Kent State.

Secondly, We should only play 1 straight up, one off, money game per year. The other 2 P5 games should be some combination of 1 for 1, 2 for 1, or the Home and Dome series. That is not whoring your program. That is smart scheduling. Every 3 or 4 years we'll be hosting a P5 at Cajun Field or the Superdome. You conveniently ignore that.

You earn national respect by defeating ranked teams and top G5 program.

Top G5? If they are ranked, then yes, you are correct. I would alter your statement to say you earn national respect by defeating ranked teams and top, unranked P5 programs AND almost beating ranked teams. Look at how much play App has gotten from the Tennessee game and Troy has gotten from the Clemson game.

You already said you are OK with 2 P5's and a G5. All I am saying is when we can't schedule a G5 from the preferred group, we schedule a P5.

[Oiler]

Show me poorly performing in conference programs who had high or medium profile P5 wins that have progressed up the ladder. And you can't use La Tech as an example, because remember they were the only appealing rat left on the WAC sinking ship.

We were also available at that time, so what was it that made La Tech more appealing than UL to CUSA? Was it La Tech's wins over high profile P5 teams, or the fact they were members of that sinking ship of the WAC?

I contend it was their WAC membership that got Tech into CUSA.

[Hark Mudspeth]

We were also available at that time. So what was it that made La Tech more appealing than UL? Was it their wins over high profile P5 teams? OR was it the fact they were members of that sinking ship of the WAC?

They tried...they did everything they could...we mailed a PowerPoint.

[CameronCajun]

They tried...they did everything they could...we mailed a PowerPoint.

Did we even do that??